Greg Raymer's incident makes front page of Yahoo

[niin]

Glad you're ok, Greg.

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Greg did the right thing and made a tough decision under great pressure. The only thing he might possibly have done better, would have been to leave them with broken noses, missing teeth, and doubled over clutching their nuts.

Well done Greg.

[JohnG]

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People like you really amaze me. Somebody makes a hugely difficult decision, having only a second or two to do it, and you criticize them. And it's not just this poster, but several. Let me try to explain this one more time, since you're apparently not reading everything, or not smart enough to remember and understand what you read.

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It's your life and your decisions. You made your best decision at the time based on the info available. You don't need to justify your actions to people on the internet that think they know best. Not many people would have the balls to do what you did. We both know these same people would have criticised you in a different way had you meekly given in to the robbers.

[dr_zorba]

Dear Greg,

As someone over 60 who (in the "old days") used to carry large sums of gambling money regularly, I have a lot of experience with muggers. I've been robbed at gunpoint three times, and once with a straight razor pressed against my jugular vein. It never occurred to me to fight off the thugs and I never miss the money they took. (Money is SO easy to replace.)

My advice: Don't make eye contact and give no resistence and you'll probably survive unhurt. They just want your cash.

In your case, you were absolutely correct instinctively refusing to go into your room alone with them. If they pop you in the hallway, then they surely would have killed you (or worse) out of sight in your room. Tell them take what they want but you're not going anywhere with them. (To casual observers, nothing is amiss, so why create panic?)

Responding with physical resistence was VERY unwise and extrememly dangerous. You are very lucky. As an admirer of yours, I am relieved eveything came out OK for you.

Jim

[tek]

As I said in one of the Raymer threads, I was mugged. It was at knifepoint on a dark deserted street. I was just getting into my car and he just appeared out of nowhere. I couldn’t run since I was sitting in the driver’s seat and the car was not yet running. I gave up the cash and he let me go.

I was not in a well-lit hallway in one of the busiest hotel/casinos in the world. The mugger could have killed me to, but didn’t. (I know you will all say he should have… [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]).

So basically, what I’m saying is I believe Raymer is embellishing the part about them trying to force him into the room. Security cameras had them on tape before they got up to the hotel hallway, so him being able to ID them was not an issue. I just believe he wanted to look tough so he editorialized…

I too am glad he wasn’t hurt, but he doth protest too much…

[Submarine123]

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It was clear that they did not intend to simply grab what I had and run. They intended to get me quietly into my room and detain me.

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Fighting in these situations would often be the best choice. Giving up the money may be the best choice for a simple mugging but normally when people are attempting to detain you and then especially if they are trying to remove you to a secluded area it's to kill you.

Perhaps in this case it was just to get out of the hall and into the room to avoid witnesses but none of us can know that and this is a life and death decision.

Does anybody know what the stats are on finding tied up live bodies vs. dead ones?