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Old 11-23-2004, 06:05 PM
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Educate us, how badly did he play that hand?
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Old 11-23-2004, 06:10 PM
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"limp in UTG with A K . It's a loose game, so there will be plenty of action and time to raise later if I hit the flop."
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Old 11-23-2004, 06:15 PM
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He didn't need perfect-perfect to beat you. If the turn was a Q instead of an A he would have been beating you. Perfect-perfect bad beats are when the only outs the opponent has are two cards in a row to beat you.

He did, however, 1-out you.
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Old 11-23-2004, 06:45 PM
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What he said.
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Old 11-23-2004, 08:07 PM
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Limping in with AK UTG isn't an bad play at all. If as you have stated, in a loose game, you will get callers anyways, the QQ will definitely not fold. So what difference does it make for this particular hand? You will only end up losing more. In a tighter game, the raise will still not get the QQ hand to fold. Again, with this particular hand, he would still have lost. So, I still don't get how badly he played the hand?
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Old 11-23-2004, 08:14 PM
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Get back to me when you understand the game of poker.
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Old 11-23-2004, 08:37 PM
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Default Re: ABSOLUTE WORST BAD BEAT ON TOP OF A BAD BEAT?

I had quad Kings beaten by pocket AA when the turn and river went A - A. And I dropped $900 on that hand in a 15-30 game at Hollywood Park. So I believe it.
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Old 11-23-2004, 08:40 PM
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You raise AK because people will call preflop with substantially worse hands and you are earning value with each bad call... you aren't really raising AK to "limit the field" like say you might with a hand such as 77 from MP or LP.

P.S. the QQ has six outs on the flop... queen for set or a jack for a straight. Tough loss, sucky that it happens, but not a horrific beat.
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Old 11-23-2004, 11:13 PM
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The failure to reraise with 4-5 people already having money in the pot is worse than the failure to raise. No one is going to fold. Maybe QQ will cap.
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Old 11-23-2004, 11:19 PM
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Default Re: ABSOLUTE WORST BAD BEAT ON TOP OF A BAD BEAT?

Is that the first time you've ever seen something like that Dominic?
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