Stats For $215ers on 2+2 Forums

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Congrats!!! Great results so far. What level of SnGs did you start at and how quickly did you move up levels? How many hours a day do you play now? Don't skip all your classes. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

[ZebraAss]

I am in your same boat. This is my first month in 200+15 tournaments. I lost 5k in one weekend. Bad days will happen to you, i sware...and no you cant stop them from happening. But the good days are also nice.

Players are able to make 5k in one night, but you can lose 5k too.

If you lost like 8 in a row...stop for a while...because that is a bad sign.

[berya]

I had an avg $25 per after about 2500-2700 tournies ($30 in the last 1000).

I lost 10K over the last 1000. Tilt and simply playing bad might have something to do with it.

It used to be: if I lost 800 the day before the next day I would win 2,000. No problem.

Now: (after taking a break) I would loose 2,000 right off the bat and be lucky to get 800 back.

[Greg Zabawa]

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Congrats!!! Great results so far. What level of SnGs did you start at and how quickly did you move up levels? How many hours a day do you play now? Don't skip all your classes. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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Well, it all began from a deposit of $50. I never liked ring games much so I just jumped right into playing 3-4 SNGs at once, and I moved up when my bankroll could withstand 8 str8 losses with a little left over. So when I got to $120 I moved to $11s, when I got to $240 I moved to $22s, and so on. Not the most sound strategy I suppose. I had about $1k in my account and I was playing $55s and a few $109s when I won $5k, since then it's been mostly $215s and it's been a pretty seamless transition thankfully.

As for the classes, as hard as I try, a few do seem to get missed from time to time, especially that dang 10AM one, lol.

[La Brujita]

I have no agenda here other than to say you should carefully consider what people like Eastbay and others say.

Eight months, most of which without reading poker books, is a very short time to become an excellent player.

Luck can make huge swings in your game. Some of the best advice I think I read in this thread was sock away 10k or so and if you lose the rest just drop back to the 30s or 50s and rebuild your bankroll.

Just to put the results issue another way, many players on this site are absolutely fantastic poker players who think about poker all the time, study a lot, don't tilt much and have played poker for a while. Many of them have not been able to get the results you have. Understanding why that is the case is probably helpful.

My take on why that is the case is simply it is not that easy to get to that level.

[DonButtons]

I just started a couple days ago, Ive already played like 300 $200 sngs this week.

I doubt Ill be able to keep this up.

My ROI is 36%.

First 100 games it was over 66%, then it started to drop slightly.

[aeakos]

Congrats Greg, I look forward to reading more of your results.

[stillnotking]

Congratulations on your wins. Like others here I would caution you against putting too much stock in short term results. Anyone who has observed black-chip or higher games in casinos knows that the phenomenon of a newbie crushing the game for a month, then losing it back is all too common.

Keep playing, keep learning, DON'T GO PRO UNTIL YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY SURE THAT IS THE LIFE YOU WANT (bankroll considerations aside).

[Voltron87]

Despite the implications of some posts on the forum (ie a 20-30 buy in bankroll is reasonable) SNGs can have HUGE swings. If you win a few coinflips at the right times in SNGS you will run amazing. And vice versa. There are times you will lose AA to AQ, then KK to QQ, then AK to AQ. It's happened to me in 2 minutes, poof. 3 buyins in 2 minutes. You will have streaks where you are playing great, AQ always holds up against K10 on the bubble, and you get enough coinflips to dominate. Then you will be hit by the deck and go on tilt. DO NOT underestimate sngs' variance factor.

[Daliman]

Well, ty for the compliment, but my biggest downswing ever was 6800, and is VEY recent. Otherwise, 2-3k downswings are not uncommon.

GZ's results are definitely sustainable, whether or not they WILL be sustained is yet to be seen.

That said, a -10k month given his #'s thus far is HIGHLY unlikely.