"Internet Porn worse than crack"

[wacki]

I'm not trolling. I cannot believe how thick headed everyone in here is being. Here is a quote on divorce:

Matthew 19:3-12 3 And Pharisees came up to him and tested him by asking, "Is it lawful to divorce one's wife for any cause?" 4 He answered, "Have you not read that he who made them from the beginning made them male and female, 5 and said, 'For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh'? 6 So they are no longer two but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let not man put asunder." 7 They said to him, "Why then did Moses command one to give a certificate of divorce, and to put her away?" 8 He said to them, "For your hardness of heart Moses allowed you to divorce your wives, but from the beginning it was not so.


And my dad is not a pastor, nor did he ever want to be one. He spent several years in a Seminary and was considering priesthood. There is a big difference.

All I'm saying is that in the community, for all practical purposes most Christians and even Roman Catholics are ok with porn. I'm not argueing if the church considers porn a sin or not, I'm just saying that I've never met someone that said porn was evil and I've spent most of my life in the system. I've seen people argue that on TV, but I've never seen it in real life.

It seems to me that most of the people in this thread haven't spent any real time in church. Maybe you need to read this article.

Democrats Need to ‘Get Religion.’ It’s Not Scary
http://www.rollcall.com/pub/50_49/kondracke/7317-1.html


My post-election advice to Democrats is: Go to church. Don’t go to “get religion,” although it might be good for your soul. Just go, in the first instance, to “get” religion, i.e. understand what goes on in the heads and hearts of those who devoutly believe in God and how it affects their views of the world. It will help you politically.

I think religion is the most misunderstood phenomenon by the left. I don't blame them, there are a lot of people that are religious that screw it up as well.

Grey, you are from Indiana. Your dad is a pastor. What denomination? That makes a big difference. The vast majority of Christians are Roman Catholic.

[wacki]

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I don't disagree that the majority of Christians don't view things such as pornography as major threats to society.

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THANKYOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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The problem is, their religious leaders and political leaders do, and they don't speak out against these radical stances.

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I agree. But I wouldn't say all of them. I have a bit of a problem with organized religion. For instance, do you know the reason why priests can't marry? I'll give you a clue, the answer is not in the Bible.

Also, I have major questions about the book of Thomas and why it was left out.

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As I'm sure you know, almost all versions of Christianity don't encourage discussion about moral issues. It is more a of a "do what you're told" kind of deal.

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Kind of. It's more like this is the way you should be. Try to be good but don't judge others too harshly. There is alot of "turn the other cheek" and "harden not your hearts" kind of stuff. Sometimes those messages fall on deaf ears though.


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The leaders of the chruches, who are more extreme in their views, set the morals of their members, and they, in turn, elect people who set the morals for society. This is what makes the Christian machine so dangerous. The extreme views of a few charismatic religious leaders are represented by a near majority of the legislature.

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Near majority of the legislature, I would agree. But I'm not totally convinced that this is the case with the priests on the lowest levels. You know, the guys actually interacting with the people and not running the Vatican.

[Daliman]

bah, what do you know?

it's "Klaatu Barada Nikto" [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

[Alobar]

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bah, what do you know?

it's "Klaatu Barada Nikto" [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

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Ill admit I have no clue how to spell the words, but I'm faily confident it is NOT "barada"

don't make me break out my DVD and put close captioning on and look [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[Alobar]

Heh, Im obviously bored, cuz I broke out the DVD. Sadly no closed captioning [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

So I looked for the official screenplay on the internet. Which is HERE

"Clatto Verata Nicto" I think he should have spelled it with a "K" tho, it looks cooler that way

[Cyrus]

"I never remember the topic of porn being brought up, not in any class, and not in any gospel. I highly doubt it is a giant sin as I think I would of heard something about it."

Well, did you have discussions about incest? About robbing banks? Murder?

Some things might be considered so obvious as not to merit special mention.

"The vast majority of Christians have no problem with porn."

The vast majority of people don't have a problem with it.

But people who are not your average, rather casual christian folks, people who are (shall we say) keen on the Lord, I believe they have an enormous problem with most things erotic, including porn.

[wacki]

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Well, did you have discussions about incest?

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yes. (It's in the old and new testament I believe)
And it is treated very harshly by the Bible.

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About robbing banks?

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yes. (Thou shall not steal)

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Murder?

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and yes. (Thou shall not kill)

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"The vast majority of Christians have no problem with porn."

The vast majority of people don't have a problem with it.


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I agree.

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But people who are not your average, rather casual christian folks, people who are (shall we say) keen on the Lord, I believe they have an enormous problem with most things erotic, including porn.

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I like to call those people fanatics. I will say that I have met many people that were "keen" on the lord and are of sound mind as well. My Indiana roommate is very religious and it is not stopping him from having sex at all. When he gets back, I'm sure he will have more than enough verses in the Bible to point to. To explain why he thinks it's, at minimum, tolerable. I think that, just like the fanatic Muslims, the select few Christians completely paint the picture for the vast majority.

[ilya]

I disagree, internet porn is a lot better than crack.

P.S. wacki is clearly right about the Christian/porn thing, you guys are being silly.

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-- Well, did you have discussions about incest?
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-- About robbing banks?
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-- Murder?
-- And yes.

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Wow.

Those musta been some interesting fireside chats, in your parents' home, I gotta say! [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

What was your family's favorite video to watch together, "The Texas Chainsaw Massacre" ? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[Niwa]

Haha best laugh today [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]