Commission Coach Play - A Full Report (long)

[IlliniRyRy]

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Going from 13-14 to 16+ is not an easy task. there is a lot of marginal hands there that you have very little experiance playing. Trying those at the higher level may not be EV+ at this moment

I would argue that 13-14% is slightly to tight in th 3/6, but definitely too tight in the 15/30.

I would further argue that 13-14 is pretty similar to 16ish in the 15 as the difference in blind structure promotes looser play. you will be playing more marginal hands (at 16% though how many are marginal?), but you are correct in doing so.

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Exact same for me, I played at 3-6 for a long long time and my VPIP was ridiculously low, like 12%. I've spent a lot of time trying to play more maringal hands and get it up to at least 16-17%, I agree that it's absolutely necessary for 5/10 and up.

[GuyOnTilt]

I'm using Miller's SSH on starting hands as my guide.

That's a problem.

GoT

[O Doyle Rules]

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Or surrendering your blinds too much? From what I hear, there's a lot of money to be made in stealing blinds in that game. Which means there's also a lot of money to be lost by not handling blinds well. Are you too intimidated by the amount of money involved, since you're new to that level, to defend your blinds enough? How about stealing blinds? Are you doing enough raising to take advantage of your position to steal blinds when you get the chance?


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I believe that this is the area that my game needs the biggest work. I lost significantly more money out of the blinds that I ever have historically. (on a BB basis)

[O Doyle Rules]

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I can also see that you are playing a couple of more hands now (unless my stats are off). Going from 13-14 to 16+ is not an easy task. there is a lot of marginal hands there that you have very little experiance playing. Trying those at the higher level may not be EV+ at this moment.


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Thanks for all the kind words sub. My 3/6 stats for over 300k hands show me more like this: VP$IP 18ish, PFR 7.9ish. So I am actually playing fewer hands.

[O Doyle Rules]

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P.S. - how is the calculation done for figuring how much EV is lost on those pairs?

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I just used the average EV stats provided by pokerroom. Naturally, longterm I would hope to think my EV would be much greater than average.

[Punker]

Regardless of good points made by others, the one stat that jumps out to me is "Attempted to steal blinds". That number looks a little high if you aren't confident in your post flop play, meaning you are probably dumping a lot of $60 shots on a preflop raise, called by the blinds, getting checkraised on the missed flop, and then folding the turn.

[dogmeat]

I don't have as many hands at $15/$30, but if I include $10/$20, and a little $5/$10 I get a similar number. I am at 16.94 VP$IP However, the blinds are amazingly different:

Yours: BB $13,755 losing $10,500 for -.30bb
Mine: BB $17,300 losing $5,600 for -.15bb

Yours: SB $8,350 losing $5500 for - .22bb
Mine: SB $10,300 losing $5200 for - .12bb

If you had the same numbers as me, you would save $6100 in the BB and $1200 in the small blind for $7300. I know this is a very small sample, and we are not playing the same games, but I think if you look at your loss in the big and small blinds for your $5/$10 play you may see a much smaller percentage.

Better luck.

Dogmeat [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

[stoxtrader]

26% is not high at all for that stat.

[stoxtrader]

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I'm using Miller's SSH on starting hands as my guide.

That's a problem.

GoT

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why? I'm not agreeing or disagreeing, but you can put a bit more effort into it.

[O Doyle Rules]

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I'm using Miller's SSH on starting hands as my guide.


That's a problem.
GoT

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Could you elaborate?