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#21
11-10-2004, 12:36 PM
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Re: VP$IP 21%. What do I play that you don\'t?
as many have said before, at .5/1, sLA-A is the way to be!
I was at 16% pip for my first 6k hands at .5/1. Now, after 9k, i'm up to 19.4 and winning at the same rate. You can afford to be slightly loose as long as you are good postflop. Regards, Pete Harris 
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#22
11-10-2004, 01:01 PM
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Re: VP$IP 21%. What do I play that you don\'t?
This....
[ QUOTE ] I am currently earning almost 6 BB/100 at $.25/$.50 holdem over 9000 hands played. [/ QUOTE ] is much more important than this... [ QUOTE ] My current VP$IP is 20.8%. I Notice most winning players are at about 18% or so (many claim 15% or lower) [/ QUOTE ] How good will you feel if your VS$IP drops to 19.00% and your win rate drops a proportinate the same percentage. Sarge[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
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#23
11-10-2004, 05:07 PM
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Re: VP$IP 21%. What do I play that you don\'t?
my VPIP at .5/1 hovers between 19 and 21, so you probably play a smaller suited connector one position earlier than me some of the time, which is probably ok.
The main thing to focus on is WHY you're playing certain hands... "I limped 22 UTG because the table was routinely 5 to the flop for one bet, and they'd call to the river if I hit" "I played 87s on the button because I had 4 limpers before me" "I folded KTo on the button because I had 5 limpers before me" etc...if you're playing hands for the right reasons, you can add in some extra hands +EV at passive tables, and you still might not play all that differently from some of the smaller VP$IP players... That is, you both may have the same policy of raising AJo first in and mucking to a raise before you, but he may more often run into the raise before him at a higher limit, where as you may not, and this would inflate your VP$IP, although you're still both "tight"
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#24
11-10-2004, 05:44 PM
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Re: VP$IP 21%. What do I play that you don\'t?
[ QUOTE ]
(a QTs hand comes to mind [/ QUOTE ] LOL, Eric. But seriously, I have to agree with you here. To guy that's arguing with Eric: If anecdotal evidence is valid, you can just look at me. I crushed the .5/1 for something like 8BB/100 for about 7k hands. I knew I wasn't this good. (Just ask Eric). About that time, I hit a huge downswing. About -4BB/100, I was missing all my draws, AK didn't hit, etc. I know this isn't a true reflector of my ability. In sum? Variance = real.
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#25
11-10-2004, 05:45 PM
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Re: VP$IP 21%. What do I play that you don\'t?
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etc...if you're playing hands for the right reasons, you can add in some extra hands +EV at passive tables, and you still might not play all that differently from some of the smaller VP$IP players... [/ QUOTE ] This is the key. I try to play at passive tables (for obvious reasons). As such, I tend to play more loosely. When I hit a table that's tighter, I tighten up. When I get heads up against a tight player, I might back down a bit quicker. But because I try to find the loose tables, my PT VP$IP of 23% or so doesn't seem all that bad to me. I can live with both the PT smiley face when the fishin's good and with the additional variance when the fishin's not so good. I'll shoot for PT's money bag icon when I move up to higher limits. My main concern isn't that I'm playing badly (for the tables I'm at, I'm pretty sure that's not the case), but that I might be developing bad habits that will come back to bite me in the hiney as I move up. With any luck, since I'm aware of the issue, I will adjust my game accordingly as I progress.
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#26
11-10-2004, 06:34 PM
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Re: VP$IP 21%. What do I play that you don\'t?
I really don't understand people that are having a hard time tightening up preflop. Why try to play difficult hands out of position when you don't have to?
I don't try to justify my calls. I just consider whether I'll be happy with them if it's raised behind me, and how I'll proceed on various flops. Pick your spots. Pay attention to table texture. Don't limp with KJo in EP.
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#29
11-10-2004, 07:42 PM
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Re: VP$IP 21%. What do I play that you don\'t?
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Mr. T [/ QUOTE ] I dunno... Jetfire here is pretty imposing as well, and he's pointing a rocket blaster straight at you!
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#30
11-10-2004, 08:46 PM
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Re: VP$IP 21%. What do I play that you don\'t?
You dont see the difference of 4bb/100 over 4500 hands compared to 6bb/100 over 9k. Not to mention that the guy was planning to move to $5/$10 not up to 50c/$1.
How can you compare lol 180BB vs 540BB yeah thats pretty similar. A bad run wont hugely affect the 540BB guy while the 180BB guys winrate could become breakeven. Bad runs can run a long time but its way more likely the person is just playing bad.
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