Ronald Reagan is to blame for the 9/11 Attack

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Bin Ladin is not dumb: He realizes releasing this tape will help bush. So he wants bush to be re-elected. Possible reasons for this are that a Bush presidencey seems to alienate the United States from a large number of its European allies, and makes it easier for him to recruit new terrorists

By jove he has got it. Bin Ladin wants to build his Caliphate, George Bush is his greatest recruiting weapon.

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Amazing that so many think bin-Laden is more concerned with his recruiting potential than with his safety, the safety of his operatives, and his access to resources.

He is on the run..let's keep him running 'til he drops. And let's get some balls and forget about "making them mad" and go crush their strongholds in Iraq.

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If we had spent the billions of dollars and thousand plus soldiers chasing him in Iraq, I would have voted for Bush.

We needed to do both, chase him down and review our policies. Instead we did the worst thing possibe at this time -- go on a boondoggle invade Iraq.

And yes, OBL would prefer a policy that continues to provide him with fresh fodder to throw at America (not the West but at America -- ho does not care about the west)

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Amazing that so many think bin-Laden is more concerned with his recruiting potential than with his safety, the safety of his operatives, and his access to resources.

He is on the run..let's keep him running 'til he drops. And let's get some balls and forget about "making them mad" and go crush their strongholds in Iraq.

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In order for what we are doing to be keeping Bin Laden running this assumes that he is in Iraq. I really doubt this is the case, and what in fact is probably going on is Bin Laden is off in hiding in some other country where there aren't U.S. soldiers everywhere. While the Iraq occupation has freed the people of Iraq from Hussain it has also had the side effect of creating a lot more people inside Iraq intent on commiting acts of violence against American soldiers, and we are stuck with those soldiers in Iraq and they can't actually be off trying to find Bin Ladin in other places.

In effect what the Iraq occupation has done is increase the risk of loss of life to americans. I do however believe that the actions the United States has taken to find terrorist camps in general, either by our own forces in other countries other than iraq, or by pressuring other countries to crack down on terrorists within their borders has been effective and is what we should have been doing.

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and go crush their strongholds in Iraq.

If these are AQ strongholds then our Iraqi invasion has succeed in giving OBL's a toehold to establish a presence in Iraq.

If this is an insurgency the we have outstayed any welcome we MAY possibly have had.

Either way we haave hurt us and helped OBL. Terrible war initiated by nuts and supported by lemmings.

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I don't agree; I think we just didn't crush them in Fallujah and near that shrine when we had the chance-- hopefully we still will. It would take a lot of the starch out of them.

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Perhaps the iraqi population would like us to announce a time as warning and we could just drop a nuke on Fallujah. Make that a final solution to the Fallujah problem.

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We had Fallujah surrounded and the women anmd children had left the city. That would have been the time to go through the city and kill or arrest every militant, and disarm the city entirely, even of light arms. With tanks patrolling the streets and airstrikes on any structures that fired on us, and a curfew, we could have certainly done it. Maybe there were good reasons we didn't at that time. Regardless, we paused for negotiations and ended up withdrawing. Now the city is a hornet's nest again. When are we going to learn that you don't negotiate with fanatical militants when you have them surrounded.

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We had Fallujah surrounded and the women anmd children had left the city. That would have been the time to go through the city and kill or arrest every militant, and disarm the city entirely, even of light arms. With tanks patrolling the streets and airstrikes on any structures that fired on us, and a curfew, we could have certainly done it.

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How on earth do you tell who the militants are, its not they look any different from the normal males in iraq when they aren't holding a gun. And I doubt they are dumb enough to go around holding a gun and announcing to the world they are are terrorist.

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Well a lot of them would probably be shooting at us as we would be going through Fallujah.