Bigger Mistake: Phillips or Hansen?

[Vince Lepore]

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pp knows that it will be hard for gus to call in that spot without aa or kk

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Maybe you have never watched Gus Hansen play. PP knows Hansen WILL call with a heck of a wider randge of hands than A,A or K,K.

Vince

[Vince Lepore]

Did you ever play short handed? Well, yes. And I've won the great majoriyty of the time that I have. So?

Hansen and Philips were playing in a tournament. Short handed live action play takes second place to tournament strategy where you must win all of the chips to win and when you are busted you are gone.

Vince

[Paul Phillips]

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If you have overcards, you're like 65% to pair by the river, correct?

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I dunno. That's not the kind of thing I think about.

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Did you assume a fold from Tomke? Did you put Gus on rags or a hand?

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There was no way to narrow his range much. His button raise is nearly automatic in that spot. So the only questions were how AQ did against a nearly random hand, which hands he'd call me with, how much I'd win if he folded, how I'd be doing if he called, and what I'd have left if I lost.

The answers looked good for me so I pushed.

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Tomke (spelling?) looked to me like he was playing for second, trying to avoid any clashes, they showed one hand he folded AKs...

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Are you 100% sure of that? I have no memory of it which makes it feel very false because it's the kind of thing I'd expect to remember.

[Paul Phillips]

Notice how vince conspicuously evades telling us the "correct" way to play AQ in that spot. I sure wish he would so we could all learn how the real pros do it.

[turnipmonster]

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His button raise is nearly automatic in that spot.

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a lot of people seem to be missing that.

[knucklehead]

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Are you 100% sure of that?

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I've been trying to pay attention to everything, I'm pretty sure, OK, I'll hedge a little, 99.8% SURE!, AK clubs. Sorry, if I'm wrong...

[WEASEL45]

KQ clubs

[ugaistheteam]

How anyone could question the play of Dot.com or Gus is way beyond my rational thinking.........I will be in the main event next year and I hope my table is in the other direction of both.......UGAISTHETEAM.

[TransientR]

I didn't see any problem with either Gus's or Paul's play. AQ vs. a pair of tens three handed? Looks like a good showdown to me! Besides, as others have pointed out, Paul had been pushing Gus around a bit (based on the TV hands), and does anyone expect Gus to fold a pair of tens?

I was just upset one of the backgammon players didn't win the tourney [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Frank

[ChrisW]

> blinds were T25-50K.

I believe that the blinds were 50-100K with a 10K ante.

> sb: Phillips T2.8M
> bb: Tomko T800k
> button: Hansen T2.3M

> Hansen: TT, Raise T250K
> Phillips: [AQ], All-in T2.8M

Moving in with AQ was obviously correct. This situation is not particularly complex or advanced. Paul needed to reraise; his hand was an order of magnitude better than the average Gus three-handed button raise. AQ is a very difficult hand to play out of position, so the reraise needed to be substantial, enough to make Gus lay down a hand like KT. There was already 420K in the pot, 670K if you include the chips that Paul would be using to call Gus's 250K, so what did you want Paul to do? Raise 800K more, committing a total of 1.05M and 38% of his stack? He couldn't lay down AQ to an all-in reraise after putting all those chips in the pot, so why not move in himself?