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Old 10-22-2004, 04:22 PM
daryn daryn is offline
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i hear what he's saying, even though i don't share his outlook.
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Old 10-22-2004, 04:23 PM
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My point is, most people who say they care when a random stranger dies, don't really care. If you care, what are you going to do to help? If the answer is nothing, then you DON'T care. You only tell yourself that you do so you can feel better, because you think you SHOULD care.

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No man is an island, entire of itself
every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main
if a clod be washed away by the sea,
Europe is the less, as well as if a promontory were,
as well as if a manor of thy friends or of thine own were
any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind
and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls
it tolls for thee.


-- John Donne
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Old 10-22-2004, 04:33 PM
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My point is, most people who say they care when a random stranger dies, don't really care. If you care, what are you going to do to help? If the answer is nothing, then you DON'T care. You only tell yourself that you do so you can feel better, because you think you SHOULD care.

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No man is an island, entire of itself
every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main
if a clod be washed away by the sea,
Europe is the less, as well as if a promontory were,
as well as if a manor of thy friends or of thine own were
any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind
and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls
it tolls for thee.


-- John Donne

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I call bullshit on John Donne.

I completely share 6-1's outlook. People die, it's what we do. Unless I knew the person personally, I just don't give a [censored]. I think, psychologically the emotional feelings that most people get when they hear about someone dying is related primarily to the fact that it forces them to consider their own mortality.

Does a spider care when you squash his brother?
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Old 10-22-2004, 04:33 PM
TheGrifter TheGrifter is offline
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I was originally going to post that if a few kids have to die for the sox to win a world series, so be it. But that seemed cold, even for me.
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Old 10-22-2004, 04:40 PM
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I call bullshit on John Donne.

Does a spider care when you squash his brother?

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No, a spider doesn't care. That's what distinguishes some of us from the lower animals. We feel some sense of regret or outrage, however minor, at senseless death, even of a stranger.
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Old 10-22-2004, 04:49 PM
Six_of_One Six_of_One is offline
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No man is an island, entire of itself
every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main
if a clod be washed away by the sea,
Europe is the less, as well as if a promontory were,
as well as if a manor of thy friends or of thine own were
any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind
and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls
it tolls for thee.


-- John Donne

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Poetic, but I like this one better:

We are the hollow men
We are the stuffed men
Leaning together
Headpiece filled with straw. Alas!
Our dried voices, when
We whisper together
Are quiet and meaningless
As wind in dry grass
Or rats' feet over broken glass
In our dry cellar.

Shape without form, shade without color,
Paralyzed Force, gesture without motion;

Those who have crossed
With direct eyes, to death's other Kingdom
Remember us - if at all - not as lost
Violent souls, but only
As the hollow men
The stuffed men.

-- T.S. Eliot
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Old 10-22-2004, 04:55 PM
daryn daryn is offline
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uh oh, poem wars! it's on!!!
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Old 10-22-2004, 05:01 PM
ArchAngel71857 ArchAngel71857 is offline
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I'll never understand how a joyous occasion leads to setting stuff on fire.


Get really drunk.

-AA
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Old 10-22-2004, 05:01 PM
ThaSaltCracka ThaSaltCracka is offline
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uh oh, poem wars! it's on!!!

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whats next, a "sword" fight?
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Old 10-22-2004, 05:05 PM
Six_of_One Six_of_One is offline
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uh oh, poem wars! it's on!!!

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That's right. Don't hate, punk, or I'll bust out with some hideously clever version of "Roses are Red." And then you'll be sorry.
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