It baffles me that so many posters here are so flamingly liberal

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When are you on the right finaly going to get your act together and ban the activity this forum is based on.

The irony of your post is that the right is far more intolerant of gambling at least in a judicial sense.

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Remember how Kerry compared gambling to terrorism and prostitution?

Here is the full quote from the NYT Magazine:

"We have to get back to the place we were, where terrorists are not the focus of our lives, but they're a nuisance. As a former law-enforcement person, I know we're never going to end prostitution. We're never going to end illegal gambling. But we're going to reduce it, organized crime, to a level where it isn't on the rise. It isn't threatening people's lives every day, and fundamentally, it's something that you continue to fight, but it's not threatening the fabric of your life."

[The once and future king]

Ok if you are so obviously in favour of gambling perhaps you can use some of your political muscle and stop the following:

The Unlawful Internet Gambling Funding Prohibition Act, written by Sen. Jon Kyl (Republican).

Also it is clear to anyone with an understanding of the english language (that precludes you) that Kerry was talking about Mob based gambling which funds organised crime.

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My point was that gambling cuts across party lines, both parties have pro-gambling and anti-gambling advocates. So picking a party to vote for on the basis of who will do right by you on gambling will not work.

[James Boston]

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Most of the South, no casinos.

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Tunica???

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From my response to your post about lack of casinos in the South:

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Most of the South, no casinos.



More per capita than in the North I would think.

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To which you responded.

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Conservatives cry about State lotteries! Oh no, gambling! If there are casinos in the South, you can be damn sure they were opposed by Conservatives, not liberals.

(Actually, I agree with them, I think lotteries are a regressive tax)

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Where are your facts and it states nothing about what posted about which is that there are probably is more casino gambling in the South than in the North. You rail on about the lack of casinos in the South being indicative of something regarding the demographics of the Sourth when you're just plain wrong, there are more casinos in the South. Perhaps we should reach the opposite conclusion from what you stated about the South.

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Probably I am wrong. I asked the question once if I went back to my parents' home in Virginia for a visit, where could I go play poker. Answer: Atlantic City. Apparently, I confused poker playing casinos with casinos, as you seem confident that there are more casinos than up North, which I never said otherwise, I was thinking California and Vegas (which doesn't seem like a conservative city to me). My bad.

My point is this: It seems to me, many people who identify themselves as Conservatives historically have supported something I will call "traditional values". This includes things like opposition to drinking, pot, sex outside of marriage, and gambling. I anticipate a typical response to my post might be, "you don't understand what the real "conservative" movement stands for, its less government, blah blah. Spare me. I am talking about people who would call themselves conservative, like for example "Christian Conservatives", without which Bush would have probably less than half of his support.

[anatta]

I guess you are saying I am wrong, that in most of the South, there are casinos. I probably am wrong. But how does citing one city with three "???" rebut the statement, "MOST of the South, no casinos???"


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Most of the South, no casinos.



Tunica???



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[MelchyBeau]

there are tons of riverboat casinos in Louisiana, especially in Shreveport and New Orleans. I also believe there is one in Baton Rouge. you also have several harrah's casinos in Louisiana. I know there is another casino in Marksville, La, and 2 in Lake Charles. There are many others.

[West]

If you support Bush, there's probably a lot that baffles you.

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Probably I am wrong. I asked the question once if I went back to my parents' home in Virginia for a visit, where could I go play poker. Answer: Atlantic City. Apparently, I confused poker playing casinos with casinos, as you seem confident that there are more casinos than up North, which I never said otherwise, I was thinking California and Vegas (which doesn't seem like a conservative city to me). My bad.

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Not a problem, just pointing out that support for your premise is faulty.

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My point is this: It seems to me, many people who identify themselves as Conservatives historically have supported something I will call "traditional values". This includes things like opposition to drinking, pot, sex outside of marriage, and gambling.

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What you're more or less saying IMO is that many people have "litmus tests" regarding whether or not they fit into a particular ideology. I agree with that point. It's funny I tried a thought experiment of what a litmus test for a Democrat would be and what a litmus test for a Republican would be and I came to the conclusion that there probably isn't one for either. I realize that being a conservative and being a Republican could be two different things. Ditto liberal and Democrat. I think these labels are probably too narrow minded though. I plead guilty to over using them.

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I anticipate a typical response to my post might be, "you don't understand what the real "conservative" movement stands for, its less government, blah blah. Spare me.

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Aren't you being a little narrow minded here though?

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I am talking about people who would call themselves conservative, like for example "Christian Conservatives", without which Bush would have probably less than half of his support.

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Here's another label [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img], "the Religuous Right." The Republicans have certainly embraced a certain constiuency that are Christian and hold certain beliefs. It's really no different though than the Democrats embracing their core constituencies that hold other values. To paint everyone in the party with the same broad brush is probably too narrow minded IMO although I'm sure I've done it myself. For instance you'll find prominent Republicans that generally support Roe v. Wade and Gay Marriage. You'll find prominent Democrats that support the Iraq war.