Josh Arieh's call all-in.

[GreyOne]

Since I missed the broadcast, what exactly did he say/do? From what I've gathered, he caught the river, and gloated this fact on his opponent. As bad as Mike the Mouth's "big/small" comment earlier this year?

[sdplayerb]

I think he had to call more like 500K or 560K.
There was over 200K in preflop.
His 400K bet, harry's 900K+, so over 1.5 mil.
He was getting nearly 3-1 and was most likely in the 40-48% area.
It was an easy call. It is almost funny people are saying it was a bad call.
Josh was correct, it was a bad play by Harry. Josh had himself pot committed.
Harry was at best a 60% to win that pot, and could have been way down is josh had AK, AQ, etc.

And Josh's call with A7 was also correct. Josh was either in the BB or SB, so it was a button or SB raise..Harry could have almost anything. That was about the easiest call in the world.

[random]

I remember him apologizing to Demetriou right after the two bickered back and forth a bit. If anyone has this recorded and cares enough to give it another look, please reply.

[poboy]

So what you're saying is it's a good idea to risk your entire tournament on a hand that you know your behind on with only a draw? This was a correct play? Are you on crack? Pot odds are meaningless in a tournament, if he hadn't sucked out it's over for him and the title of this thread would be "What an idiot Josh was to call". With over 500,000 chips left this is an easy laydown. Harry on the other hand got all his chips in with the best hand, and you call this the wrong play?

[random]

If I'm not mistake, I believe Josh was in it to win it, so yes, it was an easy call. I doubt he would have been a dick about it if Harry had turned over two pair or a set.

Getting all you and your opponents money in when you're ahead isn't always the goal in poker. Harry gave Josh the odds to call. If Harry was to bet huge on the flop or just call and lead the turn, Josh would have been incorrect in calling. The way it played out, however, Harry put them both in a crap position.

[tubbyspencer]

For those of you who don't read RGP, here is Arieh's post from last night. (I did think he was a big jerk when I saw the broadcast - and while an apology doesn't undo the initial bad behavior, I think it does show some character on his part.)

Anyrate, here it is:

First off i want to apoligize for the way i acted after winning that
hand... let me explain myself... Imagine believing you are going to win 5
million dollars the whole time you are playing and seeing it all flash in
front of you at once... i was definitely caught up in the moment and acted
childishly. I am definitely an emotional player, but not to that
extent... As i watched tonights show, i couldnt believe the way i acted
and wanted to publicly apoligize to harry, it disgusted me to watch my
reaction... I should have reacted in a much more professional manner...
Now to explain the hand.. i raised in first position, then after the flop
i had 900k remaining, i bet 400k, basically telling my opponents that i am
playing this hand to the river... AJ wasnt a hand i thought an opponent
would shove with... i was wrong, there was a moment of shock,
dissapointment, and humility all at the same time... hopefully that
explains the way i acted... At this point in the tournament every hand is
the most important hand of your life... i lost my cool and i want to send
a sincere apology to Harry, and when i see him in person i will apoligize
again.. thats not like me, i just hope that people that know me explain
that i am a compationate person who cares about others feelings... Dont
get me wrong i looked at the WSOP this year as a war for 5 million
dollars, thats why you will see me needle people here and there, but that
was uncalled for and was kicking someone when they were down... i hope you
understand

[tubbyspencer]

oops lol.

just read other posts where folks had already reproduced this - sorry

[sdplayerb]

no reason for me to say anymore..you laid it out perfectly.

and he wasn't just getting the odds to call, he was easily getting the odds to call. easy call..and that is why he made it quickly.

it would have been impossible for him to win it, or go far, if he folded.

[DontRaisePlz]

How many people are stupid enough to fold when you've already committed 4/9th of your stack with 2 cards to go? Whether the bet was a mistake or not, you MUST live with the consequences once it is made.

Putting large sums of money in the pot and folding is the worst move in poker, tournament or ring.

[Daliman]

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I think he had to call more like 500K or 560K.
There was over 200K in preflop.
His 400K bet, harry's 900K+, so over 1.5 mil.
He was getting nearly 3-1 and was most likely in the 40-48% area.
It was an easy call. It is almost funny people are saying it was a bad call.
Josh was correct, it was a bad play by Harry. Josh had himself pot committed.
Harry was at best a 60% to win that pot, and could have been way down is josh had AK, AQ, etc.

And Josh's call with A7 was also correct. Josh was either in the BB or SB, so it was a button or SB raise..Harry could have almost anything. That was about the easiest call in the world.

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It is NEVER a bad play to get your money in with the best hand and the best of it. THat said, JA"s call was proper. 500k just wasn't much to work with at that point, and he had a HUGE pot odds overlay for any hand except suited Ah or flopped straight.