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Re: Why is liberal a bad word...
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witness Phil Och's song (and Zeno favorite), "Love Me, I'm a Liberal." [/ QUOTE ] I didn't even know this was a favorite of mine. But I guess so: Love Me, I'm a Liberal By Phil Ochs I cried when they shot Medgar Evers Tears ran down my spine I cried when they shot Mr. Kennedy As though I'd lost a father of mine But Malcolm X got what was coming He got what he asked for this time So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal I go to civil rights rallies And I put down the old D.A.R. I love Harry and Sidney and Sammy I hope every colored boy becomes a star But don't talk about revolution That's going a little bit too far So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal I cheered when Humphrey was chosen My faith in the system restored I'm glad the commies were thrown out Of the A.F.L. C.I.O. board I love Puerto Ricans and Negros As long as they don't move next door So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal The people of old Mississippi Should all hang their heads in shame I can't understand how their minds work What's the matter don't they watch Les Crane? But if you ask me to bus my children I hope the cops take down your name So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal I read New Republic and Nation I've learned to take every view You know, I've memorized Lerner and Golden I feel like I'm almost a Jew But when it comes to times like korea There's no one more red, white and blue So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal I vote for the democtratic party They want the U.N. to be strong I go to all the Pete Seeger concerts He sure gets me singing those songs I'll send all the money you ask for But don't ask me to come on along So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal Once I was young and impulsive I wore every conceivable pin Even went to the socialist meetings Learned all the old union hymns But I've grown older and wiser And that's why I'm turning you in So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img] |
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Re: Why is liberal a bad word...
it isnt what you are labeled, its what you do that counts. if you leave the next administration with massive debt and inflation, they will have to raise taxes somehow. if you cut programs as a conservative too much then the next liberal administration must come in and currect it by overspending. thats how it works. each side has to go overboard to satisfy their constituents. the system is broken and thats the problem not the party in power.
if conservative is stopping abortion, cutting social security, forcing our views on the world, spending ourselves broke on the military, then i want to be a liberal. if liberalism is spending ourselves broke on welfare for able workers and immigrants, raisng taxes, spending on foreign countries to buy allegience, trying to improve the school systems with more money, then i want to be a conservative. |
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OK, I'll fess up. It's the Jello Biafra version, not the Phil Ochs original, that Zeno liked. (At least I think it was Zeno, I may have my misanthropists confused.)
Prairie Home Invasion Love Me I'm a Liberal I cried when they shot John Lennon Tears ran down my spine And I cried when I saw "JFK" As if I'd lost a father of mine But Malcom-X and Ice-T had it coming They got what they asked for this time Chorus: So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal I go to pro-choice rallies Recycle my cans and jars I'll honk if you love the Dead Hope those funny Grunge bands become stars But don't talk about revolution That's going a little bit to far Chorus: So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal I cheered when Clinton was chosen My faith in the system reborn I'll do anything to save our schools If my taxes aint too much more And I love Blacks and Gays and Latinos As long as they don't move next door Chorus: So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal Rush Limbaugh and the L.A.P.D. Should all hang thier heads in shame I can't understand where they're at Arsenio should set them straight But if neighborhood watch doesn't know you I hope the cops take your name Chorus: So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal Yeah, I read the New Republican Rolling Stone and Mother Jones too If I vote it's a democrat With a sensible economy view But when it comes to terrorist Arabs There is no one more red, white, and blue Chorus: So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal Once I was young and had an attitude Stickers covered the car I drove in Even went on some direct actions When there weren't rent-a-cops to be seen Ah, but now I've grown older and wiser And that's why I'm turning you in Chorus: So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] |
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while conservative is not? Aren't they pretty much two sides of the same coin? Aren't they essentially neutral words? Several posters and many notable Republicans today use the word "liberal" as if it is an insult. I would think it was especially stupid if the Democrats did not react as though it was an insult. So, I am just wondering... By the way, even though I feel the flames coming, I am not a liberal. I'm actually a moderate who leans toward conservatism. But...I also have a degree in English, so I'm naturally curious about particular word usage. There you go...flame on. [/ QUOTE ] Liberal is a very bad word because its working definition differs in virtually every jurisdiction (everything from centre-left in the U.S. to civil libertarians with moderate economic views in the U.K. to neo-Nazi in Russia to centrist in most (but not all) of Canada), making it virtually useless when analysing and comparing ideologies and regimes. |
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Ray Zee/ El Diablo 2008
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Ray,
Let me be the first to say your book brought my Stud game to a whole new level. However, [ QUOTE ] if liberalism is spending ourselves broke on welfare for able workers and immigrants, raisng taxes, [/ QUOTE ] I can't figure this (this = what's in bold) for the life of me. At least tax and spending is consistent; I'll never be able to square tax cutting and spending. |
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Ray, Let me be the first to say your book brought my Stud game to a whole new level. However, [ QUOTE ] if liberalism is spending ourselves broke on welfare for able workers and immigrants, raisng taxes, [/ QUOTE ] I can't figure this (this = what's in bold) for the life of me. [/ QUOTE ] Neither can I. When you spend $100 billion and counting on a war, them extra dollars can come in quite handy. |
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if conservative is stopping abortion, cutting social security, forcing our views on the world, spending ourselves broke on the military, then i want to be a liberal. if liberalism is spending ourselves broke on welfare for able workers and immigrants, raisng taxes, spending on foreign countries to buy allegience, trying to improve the school systems with more money, then i want to be a conservative. [/ QUOTE ] I really like this post. |
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Neither can I. When you spend $100 billion and counting on a war, them extra dollars can come in quite handy. [/ QUOTE ] I only meant - how can you spend yourself 'broke' by raising taxes? That sounds rather impossible to me. But certainly, I can't square President Bush's tax-cutting AND spending. |
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[ QUOTE ] Neither can I. When you spend $100 billion and counting on a war, them extra dollars can come in quite handy. [/ QUOTE ] I only meant - how can you spend yourself 'broke' by raising taxes? That sounds rather impossible to me. [/ QUOTE ] You can sure as hell bankrupt your children by forcing them to pay 25% more in taxes to FUND ALL THE EXTRA F***ING DEBT that is being racked up. |
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