On Table Selection - Page 3

shadow29 · #21 07-22-2005, 01:32 AM

First pic was my little trick.

I'm not sitting at that table; I can't control it. The 30/5 guys are a little too loose, but generally have an idea about how to play post-flop. Seat 3 = Seat 4 and they both suck. Anyway, that was just me showing how meticulous I am with table selection (probably bordering on insanity, but that's not the first time I have been accused of being delusional).

popeye18 · #22 07-22-2005, 03:14 PM

Great post. Im planning to move to 2/4 very soon from 1/2 6-max and i feel like this is the thing i will really need to work on when i move up. One question i have is your take on buddy lists. Do you ever use them and do you think they are helpful for table selection? Any opinions are appreciated.

nomadtla · #23 07-22-2005, 03:40 PM

I had never read that post from you before thanks for the link. Anyone else who hasn't read it go back to wookie in this thread and click his link.
Yes he is rather arrogant to link his own thread in someone elses thread but hey it's good stuff.

GrunchCan · #24 07-22-2005, 03:54 PM

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Yes he is rather arrogant to link his own thread in someone elses thread but hey it's good stuff.

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Disagree. For one thing, someone asked wookie to post the link. But even if they didn't ask, it would not have been arrogant to post the link so long as it was in-context. Posting a link to an older post of your own helps the forum becasue it helps to prevent thread hijacking, keeps accumulating a conversation in a larger & more-focused thread, and let's the poster make a good well-reasoned point eloquently by just posting a link.

Nuthin wrong with that.

detruncate · #25 07-22-2005, 03:57 PM

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most of my posts are basically me calling Aaron a nit and revolting under Greg J's dictatorship. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Four legs good. Two legs bad. Oink. Good article.

detruncate · #26 07-22-2005, 04:04 PM

This often works well. I'd also suggest looking for short tables (4-6 players) -- not only will they tend to fill with favourable opponents, you often find a good core + enough seating options to put a smile on your face. And you get the added benefit of playing SH against players who think they're playing full ring.

Aaron W. · #27 07-22-2005, 04:07 PM

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First pic was my little trick.

I'm not sitting at that table; I can't control it. The 30/5 guys are a little too loose, but generally have an idea about how to play post-flop. Seat 3 = Seat 4 and they both suck. Anyway, that was just me showing how meticulous I am with table selection (probably bordering on insanity, but that's not the first time I have been accused of being delusional).

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I don't think the seats are all that bad. Seats 3 and 4 will allow you to isolate hyper-LAG in seat 1. The 17/9 in seat 2 isn't going to be able to isolate 100% of the time, and you'll be next in line to isolate him. Also, if seat 2 is isolating with weaker hands, you can get some real poker going by capping him with hands slightly stronger than his, because he's not going to want to play between a hyper-LAG and a tightish preflop capper. And once you get HU with hyper-LAG, you can just call down and collect the dead money in the pot.

Seat 7 offers you some chances to play drawing hands because your realitve position to hyper-LAG is great for pot-building.

Are they optimal? Nope. But they look like spots where you can still play fairly profitably.

DavidC · #28 07-22-2005, 09:27 PM

Hey Shadow,

Firstly, thanks for the info. It's very recently that I've become so selective of my seats when I play. When I sit directly to the left of the players I want to play against, now, I consider them my "personal" fish. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Recently, to help with table/seat selection, I've started datamining (50,000+ hands at 0.5/1, 1/2, and 2/4), as well as purchasing a subscription with PE.

When I started with PE I got REALLY selective, to the extent that I couldn't seem to find a spot to sit.

You'd be amazed how many tables are 25% vpip when you know everyone's stats. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I found two things...

1) It's tough to find an open seat at a table on party with any decent pot size. During the day, it's tough to find an open seat regardless, normally you have to wait.

2) If you're on a waiting list, you don't have seat selection at all. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

3) If you find a good table, often there's only one open seat.

4) My efficiency drastically decreased using this program: I was playing 160 hands per hour instead of 200. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

5) If you're using PV rather than PE, you have to wait for an hand to start before you can see everyone's stats, then you have to wait for PV to update (takes a while dep on DB size)... by this time, the seats are filled. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

What you say is 100% applicable to live play at a casino with multiple tables and the ability to change seats during a session.

How do you actually go about choosing seats on party, currently, though? (I'm really curious about the exact process, software used, etc.).

--Dave.

DavidC · #29 07-22-2005, 10:09 PM

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I had never read that post from you before thanks for the link. Anyone else who hasn't read it go back to wookie in this thread and click his link.
Yes he is rather arrogant to link his own thread in someone elses thread but hey it's good stuff.

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We're poker players, get used to it! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I guess one of the benefits of online play is that you don't have to deal with poker players. (Unless you post here).

nomadtla · #30 07-22-2005, 10:19 PM

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Yes he is rather arrogant to link his own thread in someone elses thread but hey it's good stuff.

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Disagree. For one thing, someone asked wookie to post the link. But even if they didn't ask, it would not have been arrogant to post the link so long as it was in-context. Posting a link to an older post of your own helps the forum becasue it helps to prevent thread hijacking, keeps accumulating a conversation in a larger & more-focused thread, and let's the poster make a good well-reasoned point eloquently by just posting a link.

Nuthin wrong with that.

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I kid because I love. didn't mean you shouldn't link your own threads.