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#23
06-20-2005, 01:26 PM
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Re: Yet another giant douche rants about tipping
The house and the dealers make more money off cash games than these sngs. You can whine about the rake and you can choose not to tip, but that will only lead to the house not spreading the game. They may not spread these for long anyway.
If you think single table tournies are +EV for anything but satillites, you should stick to online. Tip (5-10%), or get out of the kiddie pool and play some real poker. 
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#24
06-20-2005, 02:06 PM
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Re: Tips on Tips, please
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Who cares about the comps? The 30% rake should cover those. The $40 requested tip shows that the dealer is a douche, and shouldn't be tipped because he/she is a douche. Not because someone has an (illogical) moral objection to tipping, and not because the casinos rape the employees out of decent pay. It all comes down to the dealer's attitude. [/ QUOTE ] I guess you didn't read the first post entirely or correctly. The poster never said the dealer asked or suggested a tip. Here is the original post... [ QUOTE ] Before I was paid a poker room employee came to collect some information. She asked for my drivers license and social security number. When I told her I was reluctant to give out my ssn she assured me it wasn't for the IRS but she did not know why the information was collected (I wouldn't have had a problem if it were for the IRS). Then she was very aggressive and pressured me to tip the dealer, and said the average tip for such a game is $40. [/ QUOTE ] So before you start attacking the dealer without knowing the facts, please read and figure out what is going on first. The dealer never did anything, another employee did it. In fact, the post doesn't even say if the employee was a cage worker, floorperson, manager, or anything else, just an "poker room employee" would could include all of the previous people and more.
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#25
06-20-2005, 04:08 PM
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Re: Tips on Tips, please
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[ QUOTE ] Who cares about the comps? The 30% rake should cover those. The $40 requested tip shows that the dealer is a douche, and shouldn't be tipped because he/she is a douche. Not because someone has an (illogical) moral objection to tipping, and not because the casinos rape the employees out of decent pay. It all comes down to the dealer's attitude. [/ QUOTE ] I guess you didn't read the first post entirely or correctly. The poster never said the dealer asked or suggested a tip. Here is the original post... [ QUOTE ] Before I was paid a poker room employee came to collect some information. She asked for my drivers license and social security number. When I told her I was reluctant to give out my ssn she assured me it wasn't for the IRS but she did not know why the information was collected (I wouldn't have had a problem if it were for the IRS). Then she was very aggressive and pressured me to tip the dealer, and said the average tip for such a game is $40. [/ QUOTE ] So before you start attacking the dealer without knowing the facts, please read and figure out what is going on first. The dealer never did anything, another employee did it. In fact, the post doesn't even say if the employee was a cage worker, floorperson, manager, or anything else, just an "poker room employee" would could include all of the previous people and more. [/ QUOTE ] It's pretty obvious that it is not a dealer asking for tips. It is a floor person reminding the player to tip the dealers because the players in this game arent tipping.
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#26
06-20-2005, 04:46 PM
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Re: Yet another giant douche rants about tipping
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The house and the dealers make more money off cash games than these sngs. You can whine about the rake and you can choose not to tip, but that will only lead to the house not spreading the game. They may not spread these for long anyway. [/ QUOTE ] Sorry but I don't know any cash game where they make more than $150 an hour. Even at 2/4 where the rake is mostly likely $4 80-90%, at 30-35 hands an hours that's about $120-140. Also, I could care less about these games at 30% rake. These games are for suckers. I need the suckers at the cash game to play hands like 83o.
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#27
06-20-2005, 05:57 PM
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Re: Yet another giant douche rants about tipping
The house and the dealers make more money off cash games than these sngs. You can whine about the rake and you can choose not to tip, but that will only lead to the house not spreading the game. They may not spread these for long anyway.
Exactly. We're considering doing away with all sit-n-goes because of the whining and only doing bigger scheduled tourneys. I was working the floor last night and I had a guy tell me he "hates this place" because we didn't end up running a SNG after he waited for a few hours for a list to develope, but we never got enough interest. He just sat there for 2 hours smoking his cigarettes waiting for a $40 tourney to kick off....lol. I guess he was used to internet SNG's getting filled every 5 minutes or something. Like you said "get out of the kiddie pool and play some real poker" ..... while you wait for a SNG at least. Don't bitch about a SNG not going and blame the poker room for the lack of interest in the one single game that YOU'RE interested in when nobody else is interested. Whoops - way off topic. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]
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#28
06-20-2005, 06:18 PM
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Re: Yet another giant douche rants about tipping
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The house and the dealers make more money off cash games than these sngs. You can whine about the rake and you can choose not to tip, but that will only lead to the house not spreading the game. They may not spread these for long anyway. Exactly. We're considering doing away with all sit-n-goes because of the whining and only doing bigger scheduled tourneys. I was working the floor last night and I had a guy tell me he "hates this place" because we didn't end up running a SNG after he waited for a few hours for a list to develope, but we never got enough interest. He just sat there for 2 hours smoking his cigarettes waiting for a $40 tourney to kick off....lol. I guess he was used to internet SNG's getting filled every 5 minutes or something. Like you said "get out of the kiddie pool and play some real poker" ..... while you wait for a SNG at least. Don't bitch about a SNG not going and blame the poker room for the lack of interest in the one single game that YOU'RE interested in when nobody else is interested. Whoops - way off topic. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] You're an idiot. Casino's make more of a sng with 30% rake than they do with cash games.
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#29
06-20-2005, 06:58 PM
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Re: Yet another giant douche rants about tipping
Sorry Sykes, but youre wrong. And these sngs often take 2 hours.
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#30
06-20-2005, 07:02 PM
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Re: Yet another giant douche rants about tipping
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Sorry Sykes, but youre wrong. And these sngs often take 2 hours. [/ QUOTE ] OP said that the game lasted an hour. I don't care what they usually take. I'm going by the information given to me. And with the information given to me, I can correctly state that these games are making more money for the house and maybe making more money for the dealer at $40 tip.
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