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Old 06-14-2005, 04:04 PM
Nightwish Nightwish is offline
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It is possible to win 3BB/100 at 3060. I believe higher winrates are possible but I have no proof.

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How many hands have you played?
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Old 06-14-2005, 04:43 PM
DcifrThs DcifrThs is offline
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Default Re: How much is it possible to make???

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It is possible to win 3BB/100 at 3060. I believe higher winrates are possible but I have no proof.

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How many hands have you played?

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uh, you're picking the wrong person if you're looking to impeach somebody's poker knowledge.

-Barron
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Old 06-14-2005, 04:54 PM
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It is possible to win 3BB/100 at 3060. I believe higher winrates are possible but I have no proof.

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How many hands have you played?

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uh, you're picking the wrong person if you're looking to impeach somebody's poker knowledge.


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Relax. My question should be taken at face value.
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Old 06-14-2005, 04:59 PM
DcifrThs DcifrThs is offline
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Default Re: How much is it possible to make???

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It is possible to win 3BB/100 at 3060. I believe higher winrates are possible but I have no proof.

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How many hands have you played?

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uh, you're picking the wrong person if you're looking to impeach somebody's poker knowledge.


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Relax. My question should be taken at face value.

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sorry, thought you were tryin to infer something else. danny hasa played a ton of hands.

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Old 06-16-2005, 01:23 AM
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It is possible to win 3BB/100 at 3060. I believe higher winrates are possible but I have no proof.


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uh, you're picking the wrong person if you're looking to impeach somebody's poker knowledge.



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Relax. My question should be taken at face value.


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Ok real quick. I do not care for this poll. I replied because if anyone does care then I am simply trying to contribute. Really, I believe higher than 3bb/100 is possible. It may never be done but I believe certain players concentrating on the game could make more than 3bb/100. All those experts out there who make 2 or 2.5 well I am not saying it is easy I am saying it is possible to make more than 3bb/100

Also myself and the other people included in my statistics do not play the 3060 regularly and have not played it since the WSOP started.


Around the time party opened up the 3060 games (a little more than a month?) myself and some friends decided to four table the 3060s for a while, see how the games were, try out some new strategies, see how much we could make, etc.

We each played, on our own, at different times, and with different styles. With just over 110k hands combined we have a win rate of 3.2bb/100. That right there is a statement of fact. Now statistically speaking I understand that 110k hands isnt enough to be accurate. But what it does is tell me that a WCP could certainly make 3bb/100 or more in these games. Some of the reasons I believe this are

1. None of us used Playerview or gametime or anything like that and we only used pokertracker to track our winrates.

2. Everybody seemed to be improving their game considerably and by the time we stopped playing I thought we were all earning more than when we started. (This is based on theoretical earn, not that I ran good my last 5k hands)

3. This is something that is very hard to evaluate so again it is my own personal and probably unintentionally biased opinion but I do not think anyone got particularly lucky.

This leads me to believe that 3bb/100 is reasonable and a slightly higher earn is doable by a WCP who focuses on the game.
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Old 06-14-2005, 11:54 PM
theBruiser500 theBruiser500 is offline
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Default Re: How much is it possible to make???

the players with the best winrates often make mistakes, and don't play optimally. everyone tilts, good players good winrates includes tilt, and sometimes a lot of it. imo, it's possible to make a huge winrate per hour, more than everyone thinks is possible.
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Old 06-15-2005, 12:08 AM
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Default Re: How much is it possible to make???

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the players with the best winrates often make mistakes, and don't play optimally. everyone tilts, good players good winrates includes tilt, and sometimes a lot of it. imo, it's possible to make a huge winrate per hour, more than everyone thinks is possible.

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I don't think you can obtain a very high winrate in limit with either. Lots of mistakes, or tilt. Both crush what little edge you have in a tough game. The opportunities to gain BB's are just not that plentiful per 100 hands.

It sounds like you are thinking of this more from a NL mentality where I would imagine WR's can fluctuate wildly.

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Old 06-15-2005, 03:44 AM
James282 James282 is offline
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Default Re: How much is it possible to make???

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the players with the best winrates often make mistakes, and don't play optimally. everyone tilts, good players good winrates includes tilt, and sometimes a lot of it. imo, it's possible to make a huge winrate per hour, more than everyone thinks is possible.

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It's probably more like the people who have the highest win rates are good players who ran the best. I'm sure this is true among the top players whom I have personal interaction with - and I am sure that my winrate in the Party 15 game was inflated by running incredibly hot. Few people have enough hands to really know what their winrate is, and yet everyone loves to speculate on what is possible. The correct answer is:

Who gives a [censored]!

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Old 06-14-2005, 03:58 PM
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sorry but i misread i thought it was what people thought was a possible winrate and i put 3 but i dont play these limits so discount my vote.
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