Ok, I am CERTAIN this hand is obvious...

[networkman]

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1) People at low buy-ins are idiots. Don't expect them to suddenly get smart on you and fold when they should.

2) Because they are idiots, FPS stuff like this is completely unnecessary.

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Yes, this is true.

I've seen it countless times at the 20's, villain limps or miniraises, someone pushes, villain calls with some marginal hand. I used to think 'why did'nt he just push?' but I don't waste my time trying to figure out why anymore.

[Hendricks433]

Yeah, I never get suprised by what I get called by when I push their small raise. Q,8 a couple times, All sorts of Kings, Any Ace. I dont see too many pairs here except last game I remember seeing 99. I just dont make plays like that with 2,8 or some crap. Id have to have some good reads and itd probally be a higher buy in.

[durron597]

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i dont think theres any way this play can be right.

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really?

I think it's right against most good opponents.

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FYP

I'm starting to think that's what the logic should be here. I'm just tired of folding my way ITM... or having my AQ get sucked out on on the bubble, or being forced to push garbage with 5x-8x BB from EP...

[tigerite]

This isn't the right attitude, come on man you're better than that.

FWIW, I fold here, pushing isn't awful, but I would really prefer to have him more covered, because I think he's calling too much to make it profitable otherwise.

[durron597]

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This isn't the right attitude, come on man you're better than that.

FWIW, I fold here, pushing isn't awful, but I would really prefer to have him more covered, because I think he's calling too much to make it profitable otherwise.

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I had a conversation with Adanthar about this. I really start to feel the pressure of the blinds when I try to wait for a real hand, and if I don't get one (and then win the showdown!) by 200/400 I'm basically in serious trouble.

Is this game just too low buyin to accumulate chips in ways other than playing pure ABC?

[freemoney]

i usually have a real crappy image, ive been called so much by hands like A4 in this situation, problem is at the 109s they are smart enough to realize im doing it with basically any 2 but too dumb to realize they should still fold.

[eastbay]

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at the 109s they are smart enough to realize im doing it with basically any 2 but too dumb to realize they should still fold.

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Ain't that the truth.

I get called all the time in situations like this with, say, Q9, caller has K5, and he will say "I knew you had nothing."

eastbay

[Pokerscott]

I think there is a little bit of a problem with the assumptions of this play.

To make this play you SIMULTANEOUSLY have to assume:

-The button is GOOD enough to lay down just about anything to your all in
-The button is BAD enough not to realize he is donating 400 chips to you should you decide to push all-in and adjust his raising standards accordingly.

I think you either have to decide you have a good or bad opponent, but it is a bad idea to assume you have both.

Pokerscott

[Maulik]

I don't like it. I think you muck because you don't need to run a race. If its any other hand you're dominated. If its 99+, you're going to cry =[

He could be min-raising to switch it up too.

[illegit]

Fold. I'm a fan of bubble aggression and weak/tight bubble play is bad IMO. But the short stack has 3 BB. And you have 10/11. If the stacks were closer in size I'd like this play a lot more.