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Old 08-04-2005, 11:37 AM
meow_meow meow_meow is offline
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Default Re: According to Peter_rus.......

Thanks cartman.
What really jumps out at me is the difference in "no flop".
Intuitively, since I steal a lot less, you'd think I'd get the blinds to fold more often, not less often - although maybe they are more intimidated by your relentless postflop aggression or something.
I guess all I can do there is exercise better table selection and recognize tighties in my blinds
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Old 08-04-2005, 11:46 AM
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Default Re: According to Peter_rus.......

One interesting question is whether stealing more can still be profitable, even if your BB/attempt goes down.

For example:

Does 1.6 BB/attempt with ATSB 34% net us more or less $ than 1.38 BB/attempt with ATSB 43%?

Surf
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Old 08-04-2005, 11:50 AM
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Default Re: According to Peter_rus.......

[ QUOTE ]
One interesting question is whether stealing more can still be profitable, even if your BB/attempt goes down.

For example:

Does 1.6 BB/attempt with ATSB 34% net us more or less $ than 1.38 BB/attempt with ATSB 43%?

Surf

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It absolutly can. If you steal only with AA, your BB/ attempt will be "huge". The more hands you add, the lower the avarage BB/attempt.

The BB/opportunity however will increaqase up until a certain point...
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Old 08-04-2005, 11:51 AM
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Default Re: According to Peter_rus.......

[ QUOTE ]
One interesting question is whether stealing more can still be profitable, even if your BB/attempt goes down.

For example:

Does 1.6 BB/attempt with ATSB 34% net us more or less $ than 1.38 BB/attempt with ATSB 43%?

Surf

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This is the major factor, you're BB/Steal doesn't matter. What really matters is your BB/Steal*Total steals that matters.
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Old 08-04-2005, 11:56 AM
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Default Re: According to Peter_rus.......

0.137BB/steal opportunity over the last 25k hands.
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Old 08-04-2005, 11:58 AM
meow_meow meow_meow is offline
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Default Re: According to Peter_rus.......

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0.137BB/steal attempt over the last 25k hands.

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The point is that it shouldn't be measured per steal attempt, it should be measured per steal opportunity - thus eliminating the aforementioned question: is stealing more more profitable even if it decreases profit/attempt....
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Old 08-04-2005, 12:00 PM
Fabian Fabian is offline
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Which is exactly what I calculated, I'm just a bit stupid and can't write what I want.
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Old 08-04-2005, 12:02 PM
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Default Re: According to Peter_rus.......

I never look for tighties. I try to sit with as many loose players as possible. It is a mystery to me why your "no flop" is so much lower than mine. It is counterintuitive. What level do you play?
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Old 08-04-2005, 12:04 PM
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Default some more numbers

steal% 34.29

no flop 13.82
fold 19.76
wwosd 48.81
wsd 31.43
w$sd 54.96

surfbullet makes the correct point that its your total bb gained by stealing rather than your bb/steal that really matters to your bottom line.
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Old 08-04-2005, 12:10 PM
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Default Re: According to Peter_rus.......

599 - 5144
2 - 61
1320 - 0

0.14BB/chance to steal.

Edit: 0.43BB/steal , does this mean that I should open more ? , whats yours ?

Only got 11K hands after I lost my db though.
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