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Old 10-30-2005, 07:37 PM
2+2 wannabe 2+2 wannabe is offline
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I'm a dealer and I can't imagine ever throwing back a tip (unless the player tipping me made some innapropriate comment while tipping me). I appreciate every tip I receive. If you tip me $2 I appreciate it. If you tip $100 I appreciate it. Either way I'm tapping it on the rack and saying thank you.

Although I would have tipped more than $2 on a $2,300 pot, if I ever had a dealer refuse my tip becuase he thought it wasn't enough you can be sure I would have gone and spoken to a floor person.

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You should tap it on the table not the rack.

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Really? Every single dealer I have ever had taps it on the edge of the rack.
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Old 10-30-2005, 07:46 PM
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Really? Every single dealer I have ever had taps it on the edge of the rack.



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ditto. Keeps the floor aware.
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Old 10-30-2005, 08:18 PM
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I'm a dealer and I can't imagine ever throwing back a tip (unless the player tipping me made some innapropriate comment while tipping me). I appreciate every tip I receive. If you tip me $2 I appreciate it. If you tip $100 I appreciate it. Either way I'm tapping it on the rack and saying thank you.

Although I would have tipped more than $2 on a $2,300 pot, if I ever had a dealer refuse my tip becuase he thought it wasn't enough you can be sure I would have gone and spoken to a floor person.

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You should tap it on the table not the rack.

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Really? Every single dealer I have ever had taps it on the edge of the rack.

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It is supposed to be visable, if the floor is watching he will see it. If he isn't watching it hearing it doesnt' tell him a thing other than the delaer is making sure the palyers all look at him when he is getting a toke.
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Old 10-30-2005, 08:19 PM
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Really? Every single dealer I have ever had taps it on the edge of the rack.



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ditto. Keeps the floor aware.

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The floor only needs to see it to see that it was a tip rather than something the delaer stole. Dealers hit it on the rack so the players will look at him and see him getting toked. Letting the floor hear it when his back is turned tells him nothing about it a player gave it to the dealer or if the dealer stole it.
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Old 10-30-2005, 09:54 PM
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I tap the rack because thats what management told me to do.

I will do it your way when I work for you.
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Old 10-30-2005, 10:08 PM
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I have no idea why you would ever consider tipping this dealer. Reporting his behaviour to management is a no brainer. Garland, you've been posting on this board for awhile now. Let management know that you'll be sure to make 20 or 30 thousand players aware of how poorly they manage their staff.
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Old 10-30-2005, 10:30 PM
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I tap the rack because thats what management told me to do.

I will do it your way when I work for you.

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very nh
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Old 10-30-2005, 11:09 PM
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I tap the rack because thats what management told me to do.

I will do it your way when I work for you.

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This is the underlying problem in poker. The room management isn't familiar with the basics. When they are unfamiliar with the basic procedures i dealing poker how can they possibly train their dealers and floorstaff properly? This is a very minor point, but it shows the maangement of whatever room you work in watched some dealers do it without understanding why.
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Old 10-30-2005, 11:18 PM
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This is the underlying problem in poker. The room management isn't familiar with the basics. When they are unfamiliar with the basic procedures i dealing poker how can they possibly train their dealers and floorstaff properly? This is a very minor point, but it shows the maangement of whatever room you work in watched some dealers do it without understanding why.



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Rather than continuing your career as a dealer, have you considered starting a consulting service? Seriously, every industry has people who teach those already in the business and they make very good money. Even successful companies pay for outside opinions. They realize the problem may be not knowing the problem. Companies sometimes suffer from "inbreeding." They promote from within and only use old ideas and thinking. They simply reshape it to fit new situations.
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Old 10-30-2005, 11:38 PM
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This is the underlying problem in poker. The room management isn't familiar with the basics. When they are unfamiliar with the basic procedures i dealing poker how can they possibly train their dealers and floorstaff properly? This is a very minor point, but it shows the maangement of whatever room you work in watched some dealers do it without understanding why.



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Rather than continuing your career as a dealer, have you considered starting a consulting service? Seriously, every industry has people who teach those already in the business and they make very good money. Even successful companies pay for outside opinions. They realize the problem may be not knowing the problem. Companies sometimes suffer from "inbreeding." They promote from within and only use old ideas and thinking. They simply reshape it to fit new situations.

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I haven't dealt in quite some time. I have in the past consulted with a coupel smaller rooms. I mostly work wiht a coupel of online outfits these days.

Edit to add: Right now casinos don't want outside advice about poker. They can have the the worst floor staff and worst dealers in the country and the players still play. Casinoe do not see poker as a large money maker (card clubs are a different matter) so having players is enough for them.
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