Whats the move here? - Page 3

#21 09-13-2005, 03:45 AM

I would call, and then regret it.

MegaBet · #22 09-13-2005, 04:21 AM

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The hand in question is certainly a fold, but folding QQ would be a huge mistake, and quite ridiculous. There is a massive difference between how AQ and QQ perform against large pushing ranges, which SB almost definitely has. If SB is good (and knows you are) you should call with 99.

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lol, too ridiculous to even make a sarcastic comment on.

deathpotato · #23 09-13-2005, 04:59 AM

Are you saying calling with 99 is ridiculous? What I was suggesting is that should you play this hand and find yourself holding QQ, I don't think you would fold it, because to do so would seem silly when actually confronted by the situation. And silly it would be. Here are the numbers for 99, if SB is pushing any two (which he should if we call with 99+):

45suited · #24 09-13-2005, 05:06 AM

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Are you saying calling with 99 is ridiculous?

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Yes

deathpotato · #25 09-13-2005, 05:09 AM

Folding loses you .6% against a good player, there is no room for debate here.

curtains · #26 09-13-2005, 05:11 AM

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I don't care how short he is. Unless I'm down to my last buy-in, facing the end of my poker career - I push. There is no guarantee shortie will bust. In fact, if you fold here and he doubles through next hand, you're essentially even with you eating the next blinds first.

Happily push, knowing you are likely a huge favorite. By asserting yourself here, you stand a great chance to finish higher than a "maybe 3rd".

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HUGE FAVORITE???? You have AQ against any 2 or something close to it, you are not a HUGE favorite against that range.

curtains · #27 09-13-2005, 05:13 AM

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Folding loses you .6% against a good player, there is no room for debate here.

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deathpotato what do you know? You dont even have an avatar.

45suited · #28 09-13-2005, 05:14 AM

well as long as you say there's no room for debate... folding 99 is still the correct play

deathpotato · #29 09-13-2005, 05:18 AM

[img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] I lay in bed trying to sleep for an hour but couldn't (stayed home sick all day and slept for about 9 hours, it's catching up with me now). So I'm playing a HU on stars! Brings back memories, I tell you what...

45suited, how can you say folding is the right play when I have actually posted a screenshot of the SGA telling you that folding is wrong? I guess I'm not going to convince you with, oh, ICM math and numbers and all that wizardry, so I won't try anymore past this point. Please, though, for your own sake, run the numbers for yourself and see what they tell you to do.

MegaBet · #30 09-13-2005, 05:20 AM

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well as long as you say there's no room for debate... folding 99 is still the correct play

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lol, nh