Daniel Negreanu - will you ever win again? - Page 3

B Dids · #1 12-14-2005, 01:13 PM

This thread is really dumb and I'm locking it.

Also: The tone in this thread sucks. If people can't have a discussion without tossing around insults and acting like asses, suspensions and bannings will abound.

Aceshigh7 · #2 12-13-2005, 09:25 PM

In my opinion, Daniel has more pure poker talent than almost any player not named Phil Ivey. However, he has lost his focus and drive for poker and that explains his lack of results.

He will get it back eventually, I have no doubt. It may take a couple of years, and it may take him taking a break from the game for awhile to get that drive back.

With the commercial opportunities available to him, I just don't see him seriously focusing on playing poker like he used to for awhile.

Daniel is smart. He saw what Phil Hellmuth was doing in terms of marketing himself and exploring other money making opportunities. You can make much more money through creating and marketing your brand than playing poker. It's to be expected that his poker results would drop off ala Phil Hellmuth once he made that concentrated decision to switch his focus. In the long run, he will be a much richer man for it.

ChuckyB · #3 12-14-2005, 05:24 AM

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Daniel is smart. He saw what Phil Hellmuth was doing in terms of marketing himself and exploring other money making opportunities. You can make much more money through creating and marketing your brand than playing poker.

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Exactly. Diversify and make even more millions while poker is white-hot. Then get back to full-time ass kicking.

MCS · #4 12-13-2005, 09:58 PM

He's written some really good strategy stuff.

SoftcoreRevolt · #5 12-13-2005, 10:29 PM

Man what a loser, he hasn't won a major tournament in 364 days.

DHamilton97 · #6 12-13-2005, 10:58 PM

Well he doesn't play any small tournaments anymore as they mean nothing and he can't focus on them enough when the first place prize isn't really worth it in many of the 1k or 2k buyins. These tournament fields are HUUUUGE. Lots of these 10k tournaments these days now have 400-500 people at least. Pretty hard making it to the final 6 or 9 of these. Without a doubt he's involved with other business dealings that probably does distract him from playing. He's a very smart person to get on the business side of these dealings. So is Hellmuth. Hellmuth says he's the best etc, we know he isn't and isn't close. But he will make more $ with all his [censored] he has out ( I really can't stand most of it but hey there gonna sell ) than you could ever make at the green felt. Also when you play in a cash game that high, it's hard to take a lot of tournaments seriously. It's just like playing a 2/4 or 3/6 NL game and then entering a 30-50 dollar buyin tournament. Your not going to be as hungry as you would if you were playing in a .25/.50 cent game. I admit I am getting tired of reading his blog lately. All his non poker [censored] he writes isn't exciting. I wish more of the highest limit players would write a blog about there experiences in that game.

D. B. Murdock · #7 12-13-2005, 11:18 PM

Negreanu had made more money in poker tournaments than most players will ever make in their careers and your doubting him. It's poker, he could go a couple years on a bad run, that still wouldn't put any doubt that he will continue to dominate poker tournaments throughout his career.

And Phil Hellmuth is not even close to being the best?... Just look at his record. When it comes to NL Hold'em tournaments, Hellmuth is easily one of the best in history, despite how much the guy bitches on suckouts.

DHamilton97 · #8 12-14-2005, 01:52 AM

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And Phil Hellmuth is not even close to being the best?... Just look at his record. When it comes to NL Hold'em tournaments, Hellmuth is easily one of the best in history, despite how much the guy bitches on suckouts.

[/ QUOTE ] NLHE tournaments is 1 game out of many. He is a great player in NLHE tournaments. But as for other games and cash games, he's nothing special at all.

billyjex · #9 12-14-2005, 12:04 AM

I feel dumber for having read this thread.

#10 12-14-2005, 01:58 AM

ANYONE WINNING A TOURNAMENT TAKES A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF LUCK!!! EVERYONE WHO HAS WON A BIG TOURNAMENT HAS GOTTEN VERY VERY VERY LUCKY. YOU GUYS DONT REASON TOO WELL. AND THE FACT THAT PEOPLE WHO WIN TOURNAMENTS GET ENDORSEMENT DEALS AND BECOME FAMOUS ONLY BECAUSE THEY GOT LUCKY CARE THAT THEY ARE NOW FAMOUS BECAUSE OF PURE DUMB RANDOM LUCK? PEOPLE IN THE POKER BUSINESS NEED FACES AND NAMES TO PROMOTE POKER, FROM THE CASINOS, CARDPLAYER.COM, ONLINE POKER SITES, BOOK PUBLISHERS, ETc...ALL NEED FACES FOR POKER. AND THE PLAYERS SELF PROMOTE THEMSELVES TOO. IT'S [censored]. BUT WHO CARES? $ is THE ONLY THING THAT REALLY MATTERS. YOU KIDS NEED TO SMARTEN UP AND STOP POSTING ALL THESE DUMB THREADS.