Hand against ZeeJustin in PStars $500...

[mrbaseball]

So when he opened the door with the turn check you stepped right in. Great play. I hate checking. Almost always feels wrong to me unless I'm checkraising and even then it sometimes feels wrong. Betting is power!

[chuddo]

if you look at the hand from the other perspective, your hand looks very similar to how a lot of people would play AK or AQs out of the blinds to a button raise. zee may have had a hand like 55 or 66 and just wanted to take it down preflop, got raised from the blinds and called with position. flop brings no help to broadway cards and he has outs if you have a made monster that has him beat. turn check screams weakness so he figures you will be hard pressed to call with anything against such a coordinated board and, assuming zee has nothing, can safely fold when faced with a re-raise all in.

regardless of what actually happened, as others mentioned you could know a lot more about where you stand by re-raising more pre-flop and putting in 2/3rd pot bets on the flop and turn.

[DOTTT]

I can understand the laydown, your put in a very tough spot if you bet out on the turn and get raised.

So is there a better way to play the hand? The only other option I see is check raising the flop, and even that's very tough to pull of in this spot. I guess this is just one of those terrible flops you get when you have KK.

[SossMan]

you should have printed up one of your patented "liscense to steal" certificates with that turn check.
I think preflop is okay, since I don't mind keeping the pot smaller than normal if I'm out of position w/ relatively deep stacks.
Flop bet is ok.
2/3 turn bet out would be better and folding to just about any raise.

[ZeeJustin]

I'm curious what I had!

[cferejohn]

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I'm curious what I had!

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I never got the hand history. Just posted it on a break from memory. Sorry...

[SmileyEH]

That will learn your 11 tabling ways!

-SmileyEH

[Tosh]

Just request HH for the whole tournament, shouldn't be hard to find as it was near the start.

[ZeeJustin]

*********** # 7 **************
PokerStars Game #651796457: Tournament #2345947, Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2004/08/29 - 16:35:34 (ET)
Table '2345947 41' Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: cferejohn (2460 in chips)
Seat 2: Bestflyman (2110 in chips)
Seat 3: HEAT (2680 in chips)
Seat 4: MAD M3 (2490 in chips)
Seat 5: Wee Stinker (2470 in chips)
Seat 6: med54 (2390 in chips)
Seat 7: Berkshire (3370 in chips)
Seat 8: HULEWZ (2010 in chips)
Seat 9: ZeeJustin (2500 in chips)
cferejohn: posts small blind 10
Bestflyman: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ZeeJustin [As 9h]
HEAT: folds
MAD M3: folds
Wee Stinker: folds
med54: folds
Berkshire: folds
HULEWZ: folds
ZeeJustin: raises 40 to 60
cferejohn: raises 90 to 150
Bestflyman: folds
ZeeJustin: calls 90
*** FLOP *** [8h 7s 9c]
cferejohn: bets 300
ZeeJustin: calls 300
*** TURN *** [8h 7s 9c] [Jd]
cferejohn: checks
ZeeJustin: bets 600
cferejohn: folds
ZeeJustin collected 920 from pot
ZeeJustin: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 920 | Rake 0
Board [8h 7s 9c Jd]
Seat 1: cferejohn (small blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 2: Bestflyman (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: HEAT folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: MAD M3 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Wee Stinker folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: med54 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Berkshire folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: HULEWZ folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: ZeeJustin (button) collected (920)

[eMarkM]

I guess that's what happens when you're against a player with a good reputation. You get them to play all weak tight against you.