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Old 09-22-2005, 03:03 PM
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Default Re: 3 limpers, a miniraise, a caller and I have AKo on the button

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60 more could easily force a fold of the two limpers IMO. A smart player would realize that because he is sandwiched between you and the other raiser/caller, this is a hand, even with small pockets, he should just let go. At any rate, at least one of the limpers folds, if not both. And you have made a hand defining raise. I say a raise of 60 more is fine.

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No, a raise of 60 is terrible and is making me puke onto my nice shirt! You're giving all kinds of hands odds to draw. You're going to get more than 1 caller. You're going to be totally lost in the hand even when you hit an A or K. You're passing on a huge opportunity to pick up chips equal to 1/3 of your stack. I am repeating myself from my earlier post. Read 45Suited's post too, and ilya's post below this one.
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Old 09-22-2005, 03:10 PM
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Default I see what you are saying . . .

Because of the poor play online in smaller buy in SNGs, you might be right. I play alot of higher buy in SNGs along with lower ones, so maybe I am more accustomed to solid play. Good players would not automatically call 90 more with 33 through 99 when sandwiched inbetween you and two other players who have shown strength. They would more than likely would fold, assuming there is a very good chance that they are going to be facing additional raises. There is a point of diminishing returns to preflop calling, no matter what pot odds you are getting. For example, if the raiser and caller both went over the top, would it then be correct for the two limpers to call if they both had pockets? I think that sandwich effect is something solid players are aware of, and think often they fold to the extra 90. I know I would let my mid pockets go in that situation.
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Old 09-22-2005, 03:06 PM
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Default Re: 3 limpers, a miniraise, a caller and I have AKo on the button

Folding is terrible cos there's no reason to believe you're badly beat & besides you have FE; calling is terrible cos even when you hit your TPTK isn't gonna be good a lot of the time with this many people in the pot; re-raising less than all-in is pointless as it commits you to the pot anyway;

therefore, push.
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