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Re: NYC Transit Strike: TWU declares series of strikes
only a general strike is illegal(I'm just referring to naitonal law, I don't know specific NY law on that)
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Re: NYC Transit Strike: TWU declares series of strikes
The law that apply here is the Taylor Law, which is a NY law. which forbids any state or municipal employee from striking.
There is another law that applies to federal employees that was enacted after the postal strike |
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Re: NYC Transit Strike: TWU declares series of strikes
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only a general strike is illegal(I'm just referring to naitonal law, I don't know specific NY law on that) [/ QUOTE ] also, murder is illegal. not sure of the specifics with respect to NY employees. hope this helps. |
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Re: NYC Transit Strike: TWU declares series of strikes
in NYS and NYC Muni workers can't strike under the taylor , which is a load of crap. Taking away the right/ability to strike is taking a weapon out of the Union Arsenal. However when they do strike, threaten, or walk out part of the negotations is they drop all fines/charges etc against the Unions "usually". IE you cant arrest the entire brotherhood if you sent the president to Jail it only make union stronger/fight more.
Its a huge cat and mouse game. However in the EU they strike for 10 minutes or do a work "slow down" for a day and they get what they want. |
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Re: NYC Transit Strike: TWU declares series of strikes
To clarify, I am not taking issue with the value of a strike as a bargianing tool or with the use of that leverage by unions. I am simply stating my opinion that they are not getting a raw deal presently.
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Re: NYC Transit Strike: TWU declares series of strikes
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in NYS and NYC Muni workers can't strike under the taylor , which is a load of crap. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, what a load of crap preventing a union from essentially shutting down a city of 8 million people. What an ignorant statement. So you think it should be ok for fire fighters, police officers, corrections officers, and sanitation workers to strike whenever then want? |
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Re: NYC Transit Strike: TWU declares series of strikes
you think its fair that they should have to work with out contract and fair pay?
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Re: NYC Transit Strike: TWU declares series of strikes
At first I was a neutral observer in this whole strike mess (although I was definitely secretly rooting for a strike for just today to make it a 3-day weekend).
Then I read that a subway cleaner makes about $40k/year, and a station agent makes over $50K (and both obviously get some very nice union benefits). And that's when I realized that the MTA should just let the TWU walk off the job, and then turn around and hire 33,000 people in this city who would kill to make $40 G's for picking up trash or $50 G's for sitting in a box and reading a newspaper (or magazine, if that is your preference). They'd probably fill all spots in about 24 hours. Edit: I don't share this opinion on the bus drivers at ~ $63K. I think they should get a significant raise and deserve it. That's a tough-ass job. I'd never, ever, ever, want that job. |
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"Then I read that a subway cleaner makes about $40k/year, and a station agent makes over $50K (and both obviously get some very nice union benefits)."
This is what I was trying to say when I was too lazy to look up the exact numbers. My opinion is also shaped by the fact that I have ever nor has anyone I know ever actually recieved help/friendliness from the people in the little booths at each subway stop. I'm all for unions but these guys are not underpaid. |
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you think its fair that they should have to work with out contract and fair pay? [/ QUOTE ] As others have said they're being way overpaid already. They don't strike because they're being mistreated in any way. I find all their demands absolutely unreasonable and a tactic to get them pushed through by shutting down public transportation in New York nothing less than criminal. |
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