ADD EMPIRE POKER TO BLACKLISTED SITES!!!! - Page 3

SoftcoreRevolt · #1 06-23-2005, 05:00 PM

Before today I never thought I'd be posting in a "Empire sucks they are mean about bonuses" thread in agreement, but I'm just disgusted about this 15 day thing. I leave way more money in Empire than I need to to play 1/2. (1,400 right now) but because I made a ONE HUNDRED DOLLAR cashout 10 days ago, I'm banned from doing the bonus. This would be super if they listed it on their site, but they simply don't.

I love the Party network and their beautiful plentiful fish, but you know what? Forget it. I'm done with Empire during regular play. I'll play when they offer a reload, and make sure I play just enough so it costs them a few bucks even if it is a 15x bonus, then leave. I have rakeback at Eurobet, but I'm using my poker dollars to make as much of a statement as possible.

I'm just going to take my money to Absolute, who have been trying their damndest to be a better site and cater to the players. I hate 9 player tables, but with how much 9 max exists at Party 1/2 it isn't going to be much of a difference.

DeuceKicker · #2 06-23-2005, 03:18 PM

The use of all caps--like this is a national emergenc--is nice, but to really capture that mouth-frothing, fanatical, socially maladjusted feel, your title needs to read something like:

ADD EMPIRE POKER TO BLACKLISTED SITES!!!1!

Benholio · #3 06-23-2005, 03:26 PM

Wait, I must be blind or retarded, but I can't find anywhere on Empire's site a T&C that states you can't withdraw within 15 days of a bonus. Would someone please point me there, or are lots of people just jumping to conclusions irrationally?

There is actually a 'no withdrawal' clause right there in the front page of T&C's for this promotion, and it only says you cannot withdraw during the actual bonus period.

" If you cash out any amount from your EmpirePoker.com account during the Bonus Period, but prior to making a qualifying deposit, you are ineligible for the deposit bonus."

So why don't we chill out and let Empire fix the problem of 'Elapsed' bonuses before we start to panic?

ChipFish · #4 06-23-2005, 03:36 PM

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There is actually a 'no withdrawal' clause right there in the front page of T&C's for this promotion, and it only says you cannot withdraw during the actual bonus period.

" If you cash out any amount from your EmpirePoker.com account during the Bonus Period, but prior to making a qualifying deposit, you are ineligible for the deposit bonus."

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Exactly.

aflaba · #5 06-23-2005, 03:27 PM

If I was EP I would do the same

AlexSem · #6 06-23-2005, 04:00 PM

go cry somewhere else.

please.

Drewboy22 · #7 06-23-2005, 04:26 PM

I'd be pretty happy with a few less TAGs at Empire.

buh bye

witeknite · #8 06-23-2005, 04:29 PM

Yes, they all turn to fish when they sign in through Party...or Eurobet...or Interops........

WiteKnite

Mr. Graff · #9 06-23-2005, 04:30 PM

Reading this post I think they made a wise decision.

Synergistic Explosions · #10 06-23-2005, 05:14 PM

The message boards used by affiliates to discuss their business is very very happy and excited by the moves Party and the skins are making. They feel they will be making much much more now. Their next push/hope is to now rid the sites of affiliate rakeback deals. They also are pushing to get back their signups who fled to an "illegal" rakeback affiliate. At the very least, they expect Party to 'redistribute' the illegal rakeback players to the 'legal' affiliates who have lost income from this activity.

I guess there's a lot of affiliates offering no rakeback. They keep talking about the "old days" when there profits were much more. I guess they like other peoples money. Who can blame the affiliates for pressuring the sites? Afterall, they are the ones bringing in many of the players. They deserve there 30% cut without having to kickback anything to its signups. Or so they believe.

I guess the poker players lose again. But then, we are only there to create rake for the site and it's affiliate. We are just the pawn who churns out the profits. Why should we have any say in what goes on between the sites and it's affiliates?

For affiliates, they are purely driven by profits from their signups. They care little about poker, other than it's a means to acquire income. In some cases, massive income. They stumbled upon a good thing. They intend to keep it a good thing for as long as possible. They'd rather the players producing the income get nothing back from the sights in forms of reloads, as it reduces their 'cut' from that players rake.

The blame can't entirely be put on Party anymore. They have a very vocal silent partner they must appease. This is a typical attitude of a typical Party affiliate:

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I target the nickle and dime players and to me it is a numbers game. I send Party Poker massive amounts of play money players each month (who eventually convert to real money) to replace the players who went broke the previous month. These guys are clueless about the rake and I prefer it that way. Rake back has not impacted my earnings so far, but I am still very much against it.

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Read their boards for yourself though. In some ways, I think Partys main focus is on keeping affiliates happy and wealthy, and not on keeping players happy and satisfied.
That is their choice.

http://partyriches.com/forums/index....mp;hl=rakeback

Luckily, as a player, I have a choice of sites to play. I'd rather play at sites not so caught up in their 30% partners (affiliates) and who instead kickback that money to the players who generate the income.

Having a choice is all that matters. Theres no reason to bitch and moan about a site when we have the freedom to choose other sites.

Everyone! Have a great day!