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Old 10-21-2005, 04:51 AM
tonypaladino tonypaladino is offline
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But you are right about the questioning. Give your ID, act respectfully,and there is no need to answer any question about another game or club. Then go home.

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I don't understand. Why give them your ID? If playing cards isn't a crime, what do they need your ID for? There's no law that says you have to produce ID on demand for a police officer unless you were driving.

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I'm fairly sure being present at a "crime scene" is sufficient for police to request ID.
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Old 10-21-2005, 12:12 PM
J.A.Sucker J.A.Sucker is offline
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No way.
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Old 10-21-2005, 03:35 PM
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http://www.wired.com/news/privacy/0,1848,62438,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_1

Supreme Court says you gotta show ID (although case was from Nevada)
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Old 10-21-2005, 08:07 AM
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You want to be there two hours or four or overnight. Thats the reason.
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Old 10-21-2005, 08:51 AM
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But you are right about the questioning. Give your ID, act respectfully,and there is no need to answer any question about another game or club. Then go home.

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I don't understand. Why give them your ID? If playing cards isn't a crime, what do they need your ID for? There's no law that says you have to produce ID on demand for a police officer unless you were driving.

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At a previous raid there were players without ID who had to spend the night in the tank until ID could be produced. I would assume it has to do with being present at a crime scene, I do not know for sure.

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Old 10-21-2005, 09:29 AM
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But you are right about the questioning. Give your ID, act respectfully,and there is no need to answer any question about another game or club. Then go home.

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I don't understand. Why give them your ID? If playing cards isn't a crime, what do they need your ID for? There's no law that says you have to produce ID on demand for a police officer unless you were driving.

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Actually Ed you are wrong about this see this recent Supreme Court Decision -- Though you are not required to hand over an ID you are required to identify yourself and falsely identifying yourself would be a violation of law:

http://straylight.law.cornell.edu/su...3-5554.ZO.html

Although this is a case arising under Nevada law, you will see in the citations within the decision that NY has a similar statute.

(Yes I think the decision is wrong, but that doesn't seem to matter much when the Supremem Court rules)
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Old 10-21-2005, 03:07 PM
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But you are right about the questioning. Give your ID, act respectfully,and there is no need to answer any question about another game or club. Then go home.

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I don't understand. Why give them your ID? If playing cards isn't a crime, what do they need your ID for? There's no law that says you have to produce ID on demand for a police officer unless you were driving.

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Actually Ed you are wrong about this see this recent Supreme Court Decision -- Though you are not required to hand over an ID you are required to identify yourself and falsely identifying yourself would be a violation of law:

http://straylight.law.cornell.edu/su...3-5554.ZO.html

Although this is a case arising under Nevada law, you will see in the citations within the decision that NY has a similar statute.

(Yes I think the decision is wrong, but that doesn't seem to matter much when the Supremem Court rules)

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this is so wrong it's not even funny. This is NOT what that case you are citing is holding, and New York law varies GREATLY from Nevada law on this subject.
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Old 10-21-2005, 12:17 PM
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I don't understand. Why give them your ID? If playing cards isn't a crime, what do they need your ID for? There's no law that says you have to produce ID on demand for a police officer unless you were driving.

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There's a saying: you can beat the rap, but you can't beat the ride. Since you know you arent getting in trouble, just show the ID.

Jeez, Ed, being from NO, I thought you'd know better than to make trouble with cops. Those NOPD cops will kick your ass for less than that.

From a player's POV, this is an easy fold here, and its not close.
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Old 10-23-2005, 12:43 AM
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I don't understand. Why give them your ID? If playing cards isn't a crime, what do they need your ID for? There's no law that says you have to produce ID on demand for a police officer unless you were driving.

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Ed, you're implying you'd take that stand against them, refuse to produce your ID and make an issue of it? I seriously doubt it.

The real question that I believe has a lot of merit is why the players lose the right to their money just because the house is taking an illegal drop. If playing isn't illegal, why should you have to forfeit your money?

Diablo's an attorney. Get him in on this. He's never wrong.
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Old 10-23-2005, 01:58 AM
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The real question that I believe has a lot of merit is why the players lose the right to their money just because the house is taking an illegal drop. If playing isn't illegal, why should you have to forfeit your money?


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