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Old 12-24-2005, 11:19 PM
mshalen mshalen is offline
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Default Re: First time ever called a donkey - Could it be true?

Since I value your opinion what, if anything, should I have done differently?
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Old 12-26-2005, 02:14 AM
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Default Re: First time ever called a donkey - Could it be true?

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After reading your responses I have to agree that the check raise move was a pretty bad play. I should have slow played and just called the flop. I am trying to change over from a weak-tight to a classic tight aggressive. Per your advise and Dr. Schoonmaker's in Psychology of Poker (an incredible book in case you haven't read it) one thing I need to change is to slow play more when I have a big hand. You are right I should have won more chips with this hand instead of going for the quick score.

I guess the conclusion is that I did play like a donkey but for reasons different than the players at the table thought. Thanks for the advise and the help towards improving.

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I think leading out or check/calling the flop are better than the checkraise. You don't want to tip people off that you have a huge hand and give them a chance to get away.

Often times you get lambasted by fish for good standard plays that they don't understand, but most pros and other strong players do.

In this case, almost any player, weak or strong, would call the miniraise from teh BB with a multiway pot and random suited cards.
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Old 12-24-2005, 10:53 PM
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Default Re: First time ever called a donkey - Could it be true?

VNH, maybe check raise the turn, but everything else is ok

the weakers your oponents are, the more hands u wanna play, especially getting 9:1 odds
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Old 12-25-2005, 01:27 AM
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Default Re: First time ever called a donkey - Could it be true?

"donkey" is misused a whole lot, I have been called donkey in ring games by guys with VPIP +50. I think to myself, WOW I must be a pretty big donk if the king of donks at the table thinks I am a donkey. LOL.

Players that are constantly mini raise thier good hands are asking to get busted. If someone mini raised with ACES and showed me face up, I would still call the mini raise in my BB, because I know if I hit a big flop, I am stacking the guy.
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Old 12-25-2005, 04:38 AM
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Default Re: First time ever called a donkey - Could it be true?

As or the abuse you recieved, I would just post "9:1" and let them figure it out. As for the hand, bet that flop please.
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Old 12-25-2005, 03:12 PM
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Default Re: First time ever called a donkey - Could it be true?

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So I leave the comments up to you.

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Donkey-calling Rule Numero Uno:

If you are called a donkey then it is guaranteed there is at least one at the table. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

Numero Dos:

All name calling does is make a lesser player play better. It rarely makes a better player play worse. Refrain from doing it and responding to it.

Good preflop call (but agree with others, you should have bet out on the flop) and don't let the sticks and stones bit ruin your Christmas.
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Old 12-25-2005, 08:58 PM
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Default Re: First time ever called a donkey - Could it be true?

They call me a donkey all the time.

I take it as a compliment. They either don't understand
what I'm doing, at least that's what I hope, or maybe they're correct.

Bruce
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Old 12-25-2005, 09:22 PM
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Great time to throw in a

"I could have sworn I had two Jacks" or

"I thought this was BlackJack?"

to really get them on tilt
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Old 12-26-2005, 01:20 AM
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I was called one today. Kid said he's been only playing poker (stud and hold 'em) for 3 months and he's better than me. Of course, he was reduced by my chat, and my chips.
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Old 12-25-2005, 11:12 PM
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Default Re: First time ever called a donkey - Could it be true?

Easy preflop call, but I usually lead out on that flop.

Re: being called a donk...

I have a guilty pleasure of being called a donk. For example: I was experimenting with my LAG play on a $1.50turbo and that was the most times I've ever been called a donk in a single tournament. I find it even funnier to say, "yeah, I am really bad. I hate folding flush draws and stuff." That particular tourney I took 2nd and hit nearly every draw etc. except for the last. The most spectacular one was when I was drawing to a baby flush on the flop and was getting 5:1 odds, but for all of my chips. I called, hit my flush, and was immediately berated by 3 different people, lol.

Don't worry so much about the people who call you a donk on a hand like this. Worry about the guy(s) who say "nice call pre-flop." Fear them greatly over the true donks.

-Gross
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