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10-01-2005, 09:17 PM
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Re: How do you handle a mini-raise with TPTK?
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i'm not totally against betting this flop, in fact i bet it sometimes, but building pots out of position in an unraised pot isn't exactly my cup of tea. [/ QUOTE ] cdc i see exactly what you mean, and by no means is this an easy auto flop bet, but... the expression (and I use it alot, too) "building pot out of position" is a bit of a misnomer, no? I mean... A bet if called ,sure, it makes pot size bigger. But everytime you flop tptk or worse do you just pray you check and have it checked down? No... I bet, and sure, it may "build the pot," but it also may win the pot, which is cool with me. plus, in this situation, if you DO get played back by the super nit, it's not a tough decision; fold is (you can rest assured here) nearly always optimal. If someone else plays back at you, well, maybe you'll build a big pot, but one that you'll end up winning. 
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10-01-2005, 04:17 PM
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Re: How do you handle a mini-raise with TPTK?
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this is exaxtly the reason why you check this flop. [/ QUOTE ] umm.. cdc, i could see an argument for checking the flop, but being afraid of a minraise from a big super nit isnt one of them
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10-01-2005, 01:14 PM
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Re: How do you handle a mini-raise with TPTK?
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I fold this preflop. To tight??? [/ QUOTE ] Folding for half a bet in a limped pot where I have decent hand out of the SB? I'd say so... Garland
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10-01-2005, 05:28 PM
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Re: How do you handle a mini-raise with TPTK?
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I fold this preflop. To tight??? [/ QUOTE ] Yes #1. Barron Vangor Toth BarronVangorToth.com
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10-01-2005, 01:31 PM
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Results and thoughts...
I folded.
Here's some ideas I got: This guy is a supernit, and at this point is likely to have JJ, 44 or 55 for the mini-raise. He's not raising his flush draw, ever. He might even have AA, KK or QQ here. Muzungu mentions 4:1 odds, and in the past I used to rationalize that into a call but realized against this type of opponent, it's giving away money as I'm forced to fold to the big turn bet about every time. There is no turn card in the deck that will both improve my situation and make me feel secure. In other words, I only have a backdoor straight draw, and if I turn an A or a J, then what? I'm likely seduced into spewing more money vs the set/boat. I strongly feel you have to have a plan with different turn cards. A couple of posters mentioned checking the flop. And for what? I see no reason not to test the waters and see where I'm at. I certainly don't want to check it around and see a K, Q or club on the turn or give an underpair a free shot to set me. TPTK is a strong hand, and I need to lead with my good/ok hands as well as my monsters in order to get action when I actually want it. One of the golden rules of NL: Don't pay off a rock! Thanks for all your comments. Garland
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10-01-2005, 05:28 PM
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Re: How do you handle a mini-raise with TPTK?
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routinely checking a flop like this sucks. [/ QUOTE ] Yes #2. Barron Vangor Toth BarronVangorToth.com
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