Your thoughts on Jesus

[J. Stew]

I don't know enough about Buddhism to say it's a Buddhist interpretation. I think it echoes what Zen practicioners would say but they would probably say their interpretation isn't Zen or Buddhism or anything, it's just what is. Google Ken Wilber?

Jesus was real....real mean.

And Jesus spoke:

Luke 19:27 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

[siegfriedandroy]

you seem like a smart guy, but do you really believe the sh*t you just said?? if so, then why do you believe it? it sounds ridiculous. i am continually amazed at how so many intelligent people can believe such silly and foolish ideas in every arena of life.

[J. Stew]

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you seem like a smart guy, but do you really believe the sh*t you just said?? if so, then why do you believe it? it sounds ridiculous. i am continually amazed at how so many intelligent people can believe such silly and foolish ideas in every arena of life.

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Do you believe there are higher stages of consciousness? When you compare a 2-year-old having a temper-tantrum, with a college graduate at graduation realizing something deeper about the whole education process and life in general, and then with, say a zen master realizing something total about existence in general, then what is the difference between the three? Is is merely greater intellectualisms? Is a Zen master just better-abled to rationalize things than the 2-year-old, or is there some deeper realization, something that transcends the thought process in general that leads to the difference? Philosophy is good but if you think you are only your thoughts then you are neglecting the thing from which your thoughts come from, which is the basic awareness that everybody intrinsically is, that can't be qualified, that can only be rested in, and from which everything manifests . . . thoughts, emotions, everything contained in this basic awareness. So the consciousness of a two-year-old could be seen as ego-centric, the college-grad could be called ethno or world-centric maybe, and the conciousness of a zen master could be called Universe or cosmic-centric. To see that doesn't require faith, it's direct realization of that which you already are. Yeah these ideas may sound silly, but there ya go, there's a rational way to look at something that can't be qualified in conceptual terms.

[imported_luckyme]

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and the conciousness of a zen master could be called Universe or cosmic-centric.

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The 'one-with-the-universe' experience the Zen master has can be acheived via a stroke or other interference with the brain module that helps us identify 'me' from 'out there'. Zen experiences are usually acheived by blood flow regulation. Having an experience, this or other%2

[pologuy64]

Jesus is the best bestfreind anyone could have, Hands Down!

[cnfuzzd]

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I have been an atheist for several years but have had problems knowing what to make of the Jesus character everybody seems to like. I am wondering what others of the same ilk think about him and how most of the Western world belives he is the son of god

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Q. Whats Jesus's least favorite candy?

A. M&Ms. Cause they fall through the holes in his hands.

peace

john nickle

I think it's interesting that you want to hear about Jesus from people 'of the same ilk' as you. You are choosing the answers you want to hear and limiting whatyou hear.
If you want to learn about the space shuttle would you ask the milkman.
Jesus character was what was so appealing, he drew crowds everywhere he went. He showed grace and mercy to the undeserving.
And well.. the reason why he is so popular today is because he is still very much alive and well and encounters those who seek Him.
It's the experience of encountering this Living God that transforms people, not just a purifying of one's ego...

Why would an intelligent person want to live for this Jesus fellow that people seem to like? Cause what he says rings true when you do what He says.
I have no problem at all expressing my need for this dude, I am totally dependant on what He does. This is what makes me strong, not weak.
There's lots of other reasons though, the work of the Holy Spirit, miracles, answered prayer, realised prophecy.

Well, I never met him.. I did seek him in my youth.. he didn't reply.

Don't tell me that I didn't seek the right way, because if that is so, you can find whatever you want or imagine.

He just wasn't there for me. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I don't know what you prayed, said, did to seek Him.
This is what it took me.
"Jesus if you are who you said you are then I want to know you"
I believe that all it takes is a surrender. From then God has been with me, it hasn't been happy and smiley faces all the time but my life has been living.