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Old 07-18-2005, 01:10 AM
Andy B Andy B is offline
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Default Re: MY FINAL THOUGHTS....

In a heads-up game, you're going to be raising light so often that you're apt to get action whether you want it or not. I figure that I raise with dubious holdings often enough that I might as well raise when I have a real hand.
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Old 07-18-2005, 02:55 AM
Ray Zee Ray Zee is offline
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Default Re: MY FINAL THOUGHTS....

then of course a reraise if you didnt have a flush was in order on the river, right.

i dont know about being weak tight but if it is possible, correct it as so be it will be the poor house.
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Old 07-18-2005, 07:50 AM
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His river raise was what I really thought made this hand interesting, and honestly, I keep changing my mind from thinking its a brilliant play to a foolish one.... and I probably never will.

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A somewhat likely range of hole cards for you is:

<ul type="square"> 88 - QQ 27 ways
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If he puts you on these hands he obviously shouldn’t raise, especially since he can and often will be 3-bet by a flush.
Of course the math changes if you add smaller pockets and split 4s, but I don’t think that’s reasonable. Besides, that would mean he could be facing trip sixes or possibly a backdoor flush from 4d 5s 4s or something.
No way that raise is +EV.
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Old 07-18-2005, 10:58 AM
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Default Re: MY FINAL THOUGHTS....

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then of course a reraise if you didnt have a flush was in order on the river, right.


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Do you really think for that size pot that any superior hand to a pair of kings would fold for one more damn bet?

Plus, if I didn't have a flush, or a draw to it, the whole hand would have been played differently anyways..
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The games are different now Ray.

CJ
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Old 07-18-2005, 11:15 AM
RayGarlington RayGarlington is offline
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So player A’s hand is good only 6 times out of 30, or 20% of the time.


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Isn't it that Player A's hand is good AT LEAST 20% of the time? If player B is holding TT, 77, 73 or 7T he only has OUTs to win, not an actual win.
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Old 07-18-2005, 11:36 AM
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Default Re: MY FINAL THOUGHTS....

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correct it as so be it will be the poor house.

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Translation?
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Old 07-18-2005, 11:41 AM
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Default Re: Heads-Up $30-60 Hand

Nope. His raise on the river means that he’s hit one of those outs.
The question was how often the raise means aces up and how often it means boat. Answer is it means aces up only 20% of the time. At least that’s how I figure it. I could be wrong.
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Old 07-18-2005, 12:15 PM
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Default Re: MY FINAL THOUGHTS....

I think what Ray is saying is I have to correct my weak river play, or I will be the one in the poor house. ( go broke ) I just happen to emphatically disagree with him when it comes to the river play of this hand.

CJ
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Old 07-18-2005, 01:05 PM
RayGarlington RayGarlington is offline
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Default Re: Heads-Up $30-60 Hand

OK. I see your argument now (I was a street behind). I think your calculation is ok; however, it would take a special guy to raise aces up into a probable flush.
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Old 07-18-2005, 01:06 PM
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Default Re: MY FINAL THOUGHTS....

You're the one who said a 3-bet on the river wouldn't be paid off a decent amount of the time that your opponent didn't have a boat.
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