Busting your friends?

[Victor]

please explain how when these 2 check it down hu it affects your money or ev.

would you feel differently if they verbally agreed to check it down?

it seems to me that you are looking for reasons to get in a fight without really understanding poker or implications of certain actions. however, you are looking like an internet badass with a huge epenus. keep it up.

ask this question in b&m, and it has been asked many times, and all the older, more experienced posters will agree that there is really no problem with friends checking it down so long as they are hu and not knocking opponents out to get hu and not in a tournament.

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please explain how when these 2 check it down hu it affects your money or ev.

would you feel differently if they verbally agreed to check it down?

it seems to me that you are looking for reasons to get in a fight without really understanding poker or implications of certain actions. however, you are looking like an internet badass with a huge epenus. keep it up.

ask this question in b&m, and it has been asked many times, and all the older, more experienced posters will agree that there is really no problem with friends checking it down so long as they are hu and not knocking opponents out to get hu and not in a tournament.

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You still don't get it?

I'll try it again. Slower. I'm not familiar with the techniques used in remedial reading classes, but I'm willing to give it a try. If your problem is comprehension, I don't know if I can help you there.

Friends, playing at the same table
knowing how each other is likely to play
will, often, in the interest of their friendship
"check it down."

If others at the table notice
and the above mentioned friends have appeared
to be playing in a straight forward manner,
not acting in collusion,
usually nothing is said.
While some at the table may not care for
the action of checking down, they keep quiet.

Notice carefully, if you're still with me,
I have not mentioned anything about signalling,
by head nod, hand or digit maneuvering, eye blinking,
yawning, belching, nut scratching or anything other body
movement/motion. The actions cited will/must be
recognized as collusion.
Collusion = cheating.
Cheating = nut kicking.

As to my penus. I have a theory about teeny-weenies who refer to my penis as a penus. But I think I've given you enough brain food for this session.

Oh, almost forgot - I do not consider myself a badass. I have, on occasion, and especially in my younger days, been known to act in a particularly nasty manner. I'm not proud of that and I try not to behave that way at this point in my life. But, sometimes nuts just gotta be kicked!

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however, you are looking like an internet badass with a huge epenus. keep it up.

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This made me crack up for like 5 minutes.

As for the OP, I think the excuse of "don't wanna scare off the rest of the table" is kinda lame. Yea, it's something to worry about if you're completely paranoid. But most of the time the average donk is going to think "Well, hell, they're betting mid pair down to the river...wait 'till I catch something!" If anything, they'll just think you BOTH are bad players. I wouldn't suggest doing that little eye move again- they have 654878495390 cameras there for a reason.

[Sniper]

Only one question... would your buddy have done the same thing if the situation had been reversed?

[Victor]

taking my friends money is infinitely more satisfying than taking donks money. regardless, its money. you do like money right?

[varoadstter]

You are colluding. You are a cheater. If you don't think this is true then you're simply in denial.

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and I "waive off my buddy with my eyes"


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This is cheating. Bottom line. Why dont you and your friend just say "hey, whichever one of us wins money off the other, the winner buys dinner and lap dances tonight."
This allows you to play him without colluding, and also gives you guys an excuse to not feel bad taking each others money.

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...winner buys dinner and lap dances ...


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Clearly a man with a plan!

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[Victor]

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and I "waive off my buddy with my eyes"


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This is cheating. Bottom line. Why dont you and your friend just say "hey, whichever one of us wins money off the other, the winner buys dinner and lap dances tonight."
This allows you to play him without colluding, and also gives you guys an excuse to not feel bad taking each others money.

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how is this not cheating under your guidelines. you are advocating that these friends split profits afterward. seems like clear collusion to me.

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how is this not cheating under your guidelines. you are advocating that these friends split profits afterward. seems like clear collusion to me.

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How is this "splitting profits"? You cant use your profits to take your friend out afterwards? Collusion at the table is signaling, building up pots for a partner, or somehow working together at the table. In the example listed starting this thread, the poster signaled his friend. This would be collusion. Taking him out afterwards would not. Would it be collusion if you cleaned out your whole table and took them all to dinner afterwards? You never would, but this would not be cheating or colluding.