Why Murtha Matters - Page 3

andyfox · #1 12-02-2005, 06:55 PM

Politically advantageous for what? Murtha is an old guy in the House.

BadBoyBenny · #2 12-02-2005, 08:45 PM

You're right, I have no idea, what he needs a political advantage for. I don't really know much about Murtha at all (what district he's in.. etc.), so my post was over the top.

I still don't like the line of arguement that because he was a longtime service member and has made deals with high level military officials in the past that he speaks for many of those same officials here.

Andrew Fletcher · #3 12-03-2005, 03:27 PM

It's not that he has cut deals with him. He is the voice of the military on Capital Hill in a very real way. He loves the Armed Forces and they love him back. That's why the attacks on his patriotism were so funny and misplaced. Did you notice that Bush went out of his way to praise Murtha after Schmidt attacked him on the House floor? Bush knows that Murtha speaks for the top brass.

BadBoyBenny · #4 12-04-2005, 12:02 AM

You haven't convinced me of anything. Attacking the patriotism of someone with his record is silly, and made Schmidt look like an ass. But I still don't buy that he is speaking for the "top brass". Do you have any examples of how he has done this in the past? You really haven't shown anything other than that Bush knows that Murtha is a patriot who has a different position on the war than he does, should not be attacked with ad hominems.

Andrew Fletcher · #5 12-04-2005, 11:16 AM

He actually didn't serve for that long or ever obtain a particularly high rank.

Andrew Fletcher · #6 12-03-2005, 03:26 PM

You clearly know nothing about Jack Murtha besides what you read in the conservative blogs.

Felix_Nietsche · #7 12-04-2005, 09:58 AM

The only other explanation is he is in the pay of Al queda and is committing gross treason.

I have seen several active duty military officers (serving in Iraq) saying we should finish the job and yet I have not seen any active duty officers in Iraq say we should cut and run.

70%+ of US military voted for Bush43. Looks like they support Bush's policies and not Murtha's coward strategy. Game-set-match. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Andrew Fletcher · #8 12-04-2005, 11:05 AM

Nice try.

51% of the general public voted for Bush and now they've changed their minds. Are military personal immune from changing their minds as well?

Felix_Nietsche · #9 12-04-2005, 12:34 PM

If you have evidence that military support for Bush has dropped.....then post a link. I will look at it.

I have posted links on the 70%+ military support for Bush43 SEVERAL times on this site.

Andrew Fletcher · #10 12-04-2005, 01:03 PM

I think you are most likely correct that 70% of the military supports Bush. It makes sense.

I am not talking about the general population of the military. I'm talking about top-level commanders. That's not that big of a group but they are in charge of the actual mission.

I'm sorry, but since you seem to know nothing about Jack Murtha and his relationships, you really have no legitimatcy in talking about his statements and what they mean. Sorry.