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Old 06-07-2005, 01:46 AM
Newt_Buggs Newt_Buggs is offline
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Default Re: Lets figure out this PVS thing

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Uhh, I'm on the button after UTG limped (and when solid UTG limps in L4, I crack his aces a lot)

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I agree that limping against a known solid player is the best play on hand 3, but against an unknown it may not be since the majority of $50 players aren't solid. If you manage to get your whole stack in every time that you flop a set you are getting 11:1 on your money. Considering that you only flop a set something like 7.5:1 and you won't win every time that you hit (and the blinds might raise after you), it seems to me that against most opponents limping to try to flop a set is a very marginal play. Even if you make a set against Aces, you will still lose the hand approximately 18% of the time.

Also, please note that I did mention that these are not true PVSs in the OP. I just used the term since its convenient (didn't know what else to call this). If Phil himself isn't complaining I don't see why you guys are.
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Old 06-07-2005, 06:09 AM
hansarnic hansarnic is offline
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Default Re: Lets figure out this PVS thing

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Uhh, I'm on the button after UTG limped (and when solid UTG limps in L4, I crack his aces a lot)

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You really should be routinely folding baby pairs here IMO. It's barely break-even to play for your set even if he does have Aces and will stack off on any flop. And most times he doesn't and he won't.

There are far better things to do with your chips on Level 4.
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