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Old 12-09-2005, 02:26 AM
rachelwxm rachelwxm is offline
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Default Re: QQ out of position against a reraise

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I think check raising the flop all in is better then calling the turn.

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Huh? If you cr all in, he might still card TT+ but drop AT type hands. Certainly any hands crush you will call 100%. JJ TT might get away as well if he is tight. As long as turn does not bring an overcard, I don't see why cr all in is better.
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Old 12-09-2005, 02:32 AM
DavidC DavidC is offline
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Default Re: QQ out of position against a reraise

I'm kinda curious why you raised to 5 blinds preflop... I normally raise four... This isn't necessarily good or bad on your part or mine, but I'm curious. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Also, for the guys that say that this screams overpair, why would villain bet half the pot on the flop and then push the turn... like, what's he afraid of hero having that migth draw out against him on this board? I don't know... it screams AA-TT,AK, from a LHE standpoint, and probably AA-QQ, AK from a NLHE standpoint, but the turn push makes me think it's more likely to be QQ or AK than AA or KK.

I'm still pretty amature at this, though. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Old 12-09-2005, 02:38 AM
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Default Re: QQ out of position against a reraise

I don't agree if you call flop you have to call turn. Most of guys would cb flop 80-100% time, it does not mean a big pair. But at limit lower than 100, I think regular people does not fire 2 barrel bluff that often. And it's draw heavy board, so his all in could be a scary AA KK here. Ofcourse, it depends on his pf reraise range since the board does not help whatever he is reraising with.

Since he has one pot bet left, I pay off is he has AA or KK. But it's close. I don't play full ring that much so I have no idea what range of hands he is reraising with.
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Old 12-09-2005, 02:44 AM
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Default Re: QQ out of position against a reraise

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I'm kinda curious why you raised to 5 blinds preflop... I normally raise four... This isn't necessarily good or bad on your part or mine, but I'm curious.

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If they call 4, they'll call 5. I make it 8 at some tables.
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Old 12-09-2005, 02:47 AM
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Default Re: QQ out of position against a reraise

Thanks for the comments guys. I do agree with most people now that calling is correct. I don't see this hand being beat 2 out of 3 times on the turn. The villain was knew, and I probably made the mistake of giving him credit for not being a donkey.
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