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Old 12-19-2005, 11:04 AM
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This may seem minor, but I'm betting 4xBB here. Usually at this stage of the tourney 3xBB is standard, and a bigger bet is going to look strong, depending on table conditions, and often take down the pot pf. Whether this extra bb makes button fold is questionable, but may be worth it. The thing about the 3xbb bet here is that if someone in MP calls, you're probably going to have some more company, and you want heads up with AA.

Of course the result was heads up, so you got what you wanted. I don't think you have the stack to be tricky with aces in this situation.

Your stack is too big to move all-in pf, and you can't let this go on the flop.

You played it fine.

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Why do you want to make KJ fold and take the blinds when you have AA?

I am not crazy about raising 4xBB with a strong handweven if it is not AA. Why signal what you have? Why do you not want action with a strong hand?
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Old 12-19-2005, 11:38 AM
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What the hell. You have AA on the button and 20xBB. Villian would make the same play with KQ/KT. You beat plenty of hands here. This thread should be in the BBV forum.
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Old 12-19-2005, 03:51 PM
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Firstly it was not 1 bad beat, it was 3. I cleaned you out. During our first encounter you had 50,000 plus in chips and I had 15,000. I ended up with 65,000 chips and knocked you out fair and square.

very truly: the donkey

PS: Dan Mezick: I'm proud I came in 53rd in a field of 1878. Not bad for 4 months of play. I'm here lurking to learn. But find it a little disconcerting that the words jerk and idiot are used to describe an exchange I had.

PokerStars Tournament #16586799, No Limit Hold'em
Buy-In: $3.00/$0.30
1878 players
You finished the tournament in 53rd place.
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Old 12-19-2005, 04:08 PM
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Now this is funny, a reply from the "Villan" himself. Now for some real perspective. Chzcake, what exactly were you were thinking when calling the PF raise, by that I mean, did you think he had a hand like AA or AK or small pair? Did you see the raise as a standard 4x raise and nothing to worry about or what? Your feedback is greatly appreciated on this, for all of us. I already you were jumping for joy on the flop.

-Rich
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Old 12-19-2005, 04:17 PM
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As mentioned I had bit deeply into his stack on two prior exchanges. I now had most of his chips. He made a comment about being hot earlier and now cooling off. The pre-flop bet was pretty typical of what was coming out from medium strength hands. I didn't read him as anything too strong...maybe a medium pair at best. I also thot he might be on tilt and was looking for a chance to finish him. So I called with a KJ. Obviously I flopped a KJ and when he raised all in I buried him. Whats funny is hero is playing the victim of a donkeyfield. The truth is, he just shot himself in the foot.
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Old 12-19-2005, 06:06 PM
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Chzcake said: "Whats funny is hero is playing the victim of a donkeyfield. The truth is, he just shot himself in the foot."

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My response, although somewhat called for, was undignified. Fact is, hero played very well to accumulate $50,000 in chips to that stage of the tourney and I'm sure I could learn a lot from him.

cheers!
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Old 12-19-2005, 06:22 PM
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Chzcake said: "Whats funny is hero is playing the victim of a donkeyfield. The truth is, he just shot himself in the foot."

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My response, although somewhat called for, was undignified. Fact is, hero played very well to accumulate $50,000 in chips to that stage of the tourney and I'm sure I could learn a lot from him.

cheers!

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Like how not to call early position raises with KJo.
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Old 12-19-2005, 06:39 PM
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Wrong. You didn't do this. I never had 50,000 in chips in that tourney what was the screename of the dude you knocked out? I don't go by sngsam on pokerstars.

SAM
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Old 12-19-2005, 06:44 PM
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Default Re: Donkeyfied AA hand

1.The donkey in this scenario was me. I was mad that I played this so hard when a scare flop came.

2. It wasn't you.

3. If you did have a similar hand with someone else...I still think it's a bad call preflop but not horrible.

Straight Flushes,

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Old 12-19-2005, 06:48 PM
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As mentioned I had bit deeply into his stack on two prior exchanges. I now had most of his chips. He made a comment about being hot earlier and now cooling off. The pre-flop bet was pretty typical of what was coming out from medium strength hands. I didn't read him as anything too strong...maybe a medium pair at best. I also thot he might be on tilt and was looking for a chance to finish him. So I called with a KJ. Obviously I flopped a KJ and when he raised all in I buried him. Whats funny is hero is playing the victim of a donkeyfield. The truth is, he just shot himself in the foot.

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Sounds like villain was eager to get involved in pots with Hero for a personal vendetta and therefore got involved with a weak hand in a marginal situation? And you're proud of this why?

Fold PF.

As for Hero, the hand was played fine.
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