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06-26-2005, 07:03 PM
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Re: Spin-off: 10 Most influential people of all time.
I'm curious to think what people think of Abraham. Without him, no Jesus, no Muhammed.
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06-26-2005, 07:06 PM
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Re: Spin-off: 10 Most influential people of all time.
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I'm curious to think what people think of Abraham. Without him, no Jesus, no Muhammed. [/ QUOTE ] I was hesitant to put OT figures on the list (for obvious reasons) But, if you are, Abraham must be counted. Of course, Adam is a lock at #1 if you include OT figures.
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#23
06-26-2005, 07:14 PM
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I'm curious to think what people think of Abraham. Without him, no Jesus, no Muhammed. [/ QUOTE ] If you were to go that root I think you would have to include Moses and Noah because without them there would be no Abraham. Or am I messing up the timeline? Same goes to Adam as CMI said.
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#24
06-27-2005, 07:13 AM
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[ QUOTE ] I don't understand how darwin is so high on these lists. I fail to see how his ideas actually changed the course of world events on anywhere near a Newton or Jesus level, or even a Merriwether Lewis level. Explain yourselves. [/ QUOTE ] The implications of Darwin's theory collide with and intrude upon several areas of set beliefs. Religion: evolution conflicts directly with creationism, that should be obvious. I'd assume most people of the board would agree that creationism has been debunked, but without Darwin that certainly would not be the case. This also tests the question of "is there a god" to a certain degree, and definitely tests the question of "is there a judeo-christain god" and the validity of the scripture. When evolution suggests that the world could be much much older than people imagined, questions arise. Social Darwinism: The notion of "survival of the fittest" made people wonder how they fit into the evolutionary scheme of things. This idea links into the eugenics movemnt which leads right into Hitler's formulation of a master race. Without Darwin, this wouldn't happen quite like this. Biology: Obviously the theory of evolution has done a lot to aid the understanding of biology, affecting everything up to present day issues such as stem cell research, pathology, etc. Evolution governs these issues because it explains them. Without the understanding that evolution provides, we could not track the development of disease, nor would we care. Without Darwin, if Watson and Crick still discover DNA, they miss the big picture. [/ QUOTE ] Nice post. I would also like to add psychology to the list of fields that Darwin had an enormous impact on. Darwin in effect removed man from his pedestal and made him into just another animal. An astounding animal, no doubt, but an animal just the same. I don't think the impact of what Darwin's work means to the human psyche can be understated.
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06-28-2005, 04:27 AM
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also, some guy said gandhi? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] ghandi introduced the principles of non violence that were key to the civil rights movement and have carried over to multiple movements since then (suffrage, gay rights, etc). he is the driving force for MLK still probably shouldn't make the top 10
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#26
06-28-2005, 02:16 PM
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Re: Spin-off: 10 Most influential people of all time.
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[ QUOTE ] also, some guy said gandhi? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] ghandi introduced the principles of non violence that were key to the civil rights movement and have carried over to multiple movements since then (suffrage, gay rights, etc). he is the driving force for MLK still probably shouldn't make the top 10 [/ QUOTE ] Yeah but didn't he learn those from Thoreau
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#27
06-28-2005, 02:27 PM
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Re: Spin-off: 10 Most influential people of all time.
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] also, some guy said gandhi? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] ghandi introduced the principles of non violence that were key to the civil rights movement and have carried over to multiple movements since then (suffrage, gay rights, etc). he is the driving force for MLK still probably shouldn't make the top 10 [/ QUOTE ] Yeah but didn't he learn those from Thoreau [/ QUOTE ] I dont think Gandhi is top 10 or anything, but, he was far and away the most influential person on the movement for the indepdence of India. I mean, that alone cant be overlooked. Add to that the influences he had on others (mentioned above), and he was pretty influential.
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