Why so much tipping?

[Asufiji2004]

To keep the costs of running the casino down. Same with restaurants, they could pay servers 15+/hr., but a burger and fries will cost me 20 bucks, Instead of 10 plus tip. One way or another the patrons pay for the costs. Isn't that pretty much the essence of running a business?

[Pocket Trips]

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why do you care if the dealer likes you?

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It is always good to have the dealer " on your side" when the dealer is explaining what happened to the floor person in a disputed hand.

Playing at the trop a few months ago a local idiot was yelling at the fish for playing trash hands and winning with them. He was drunk and getting very rude to the point where he was interfering with the flow of the game because people were defending their play to him and it was becoming very annoying to myself and the other social players that were laughing and joking around "gambooling it up." In addition to this on the 2 small pots he did win he stiffed the dealer and I tossed her a chip when he stiffed her because she was handling him about as well as anyone could.

Toward the end of the dealers rotation at my table EVERYONE was just fed up with this a-hole and the follwing situation came up. Heads up against the a-hole I rivered the nut flush when my top pair hit runner runner [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]'s, When I saw I made my flush I was of course planning on betting it and was picking up chips to do so but had made no foward motion or had not announced "bet" when he tossed chips into the pot and said "$8." Now EVERYONE including the dealer knew I was PLANNING on betting but had not yet done so. So after the dealer said sir please wait your turn, I Said clutching the 8 chips in my hand "check," He angerly waved his hand in my direction and said "$8" Now of course this guy immediately went ballistic when I check-raised him saying I was going to bet blah blah blah. The floorperson was called over and the dealer explained that I had not had a chance to act yet an that even though I was in the process of picking up chips to bet I had not yet done so.

Floorperson rules that my raise stands (woo-hoo [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]) The guy is so pissed off now he reraised me with the king and we went back and forth 4 times before he just called. I raked in the pot tipping the dealer 2 reds as he got up from the table yelling and screaming at me.

So to sum it up

Tipping dealer on 2 pots she was stiffed on... -$2

4 extra big bets on the river.... +$36
Having the dealer on your side a questionable situation .... priceless

[AngusThermopyle]

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why do you care if the dealer likes you?

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It is always good to have the dealer " on your side" when the dealer is explaining what happened to the floor person in a disputed hand.

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Funny, I read your description of the incident and it seemed that the dealer did nothing but tell the truth. Did I miss something?

[Pocket Trips]

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why do you care if the dealer likes you?

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It is always good to have the dealer " on your side" when the dealer is explaining what happened to the floor person in a disputed hand.

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Funny, I read your description of the incident and it seemed that the dealer did nothing but tell the truth. Did I miss something?

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yes you did...Since there are no "race track" lines on AC tables many times it can be a judgement call on whether or not my motion of picking up chips could be considered "action." When I check-raised the guy the dealer gave me a look that basically said well technically you shouldn't be able to do that but since this guy is an a-hole I will let it slide.

[AngusThermopyle]

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When I check-raised the guy the dealer gave me a look that basically said well technically you shouldn't be able to do that but since this guy is an a-hole I will let it slide.

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If that is the case, then the dealer is the a-hole.

[pokermama]

I deal poker in the local indian casino.. we just opened up last week.. very interesting observation as to the tipping.. Our State just legalized Poker as a form of gambling... During my first week, I overheard players saying.. OH we are supposed to tip the dealer??

Well, I for one am grateful for the tips.. they assure me I am serving you well... I try to keep the action going and let you know when to act..

Blackjack dealers they turn over cards, have automatic shufflers and only have to count to 2.5 of your bet..

This is what I have to do while in the box.. I have to count my til.. if it is off, I have to pay it out of my pocket... then I have to ensure that all the cards are correct.. no defects or marks... you want a fair game right?

I shuffle and deal.. then I have to keep the action going because the house wants us to deal 20 hands an hour... (this is why I am saying... 10 to you sir, or Action is on you sir).... I then have to keep track of who is in or out... so I can tell the man at the end of the table how many players are in.. (I guess he can't count the cards that are in front of the players)

Then I have to figure the rake, if I don't get the right amount.. look out... write up... I take the rake and then deal 4th street... go through the betting and on.. then after I deal the river I have to count my stub down... at least twice per down...okay.. now I have to read the cards, determine the winner and award the pot and, if split, stack em up and get them to you..

then I reshuffle and do it again..

I am in the box for about 30 minutes then up chip running and picking up chip trays, drink holders, etc... then back in the box for another 30.. if lucky I might get 4 times in the box a night...

Yeah the tips are what we are working for.. I thank you for them.. it is disheartening to push a 500.00 pot on the no limit table to a man who has over 1,000.00 on the table and he never tips.. not one dollar...

It also breaks my heart when the guy who just hit the ATM machine for the 5th time is tipping me 2 bucks, when I know he is on tilt and can use it..

To break it down for you.. I get $5.50 an hour.. plus the tips.. I have to turn them in at night and pay taxes on them as well... I keep all my own tips... the poker dealers do not pool them like the Blackjack..

So a good rule is.. if you like the service, if you win a pot... get more back than you put in.. tip us.. if you don't get more back, don't worry.. I understand that as a poker player... IF you don't like the dealer, don't tip.. they won't stay if they don't make the tips... but if you have some good dealers and you want them to stay, you are happy to see them come to your table.. tips are appreciated!!!

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[Zoltri]

Very nice post.
I'm sure you are a fine dealer and good luck at your new job.

[Al_Capone_Junior]

Just friggin' tip already and don't add up how much is costs you. Consider it a necessary part of the game. Tipping is completely separate from the rake anyway, so don't lump them in the same category.

The bottom line is don't be a friggin' stiff, that's "bad."

al

[chesspain]

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I'm 42 [censored] years old you [censored] [censored]. I started playing this game before most in this forum were born.

Btw, you [censored] dipshit, I have been in the service business all my life having owned/sold 4 restaurants so don't lecture me about tipping you [censored] piece of crap.

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Hey Mel...KISS MY GRITS!

[tdp]

When you go out to eat,don't you figure in tipping as part of the cost of dining?I certainly do.If I can't afford to tip,I can't afford to eat out period.Anyone who goes to a restaurant with no intent of tipping is a scumbag who should stay home and eat canned soup.Anyone who goes to a cardroom with no intent of tipping should stay home and play on the net.
Service professionals are paid very little to be there and take care of you,but they are being paid just to be there,whether there are customers or not.They are there to work for you and if they do a good job,take care of them.If you aren't willing to do that,stay home until you grow up.