QQ: Still lost in these situations - Page 3

Dave G. · #21 07-31-2005, 11:35 PM

Oh yes, I seem to have interpreted it as refering to the turn. My mistake.

Angrymoog · #22 07-31-2005, 11:49 PM

The only thing I have to disagree with is that loose passive players bet weak pairs on the river after you check. Yes, there is definately a predominate type of fish that plays like this, but if they bet when checked to, they arent exactly passive. That's what I thought the definition of passive was. Maybe theyre only passive when OOP?

KingOtter · #23 07-31-2005, 11:49 PM

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Been playing .5/1 on and off for the past 8 months and I still feel really lost when this happens.

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Pretty much I bet until I hit resistence on these cases. With my move up to 1/2 I'm getting duped a little bit more because the players are trickier, so I may start changing my strategy on these a bit (I've no clue how, yet), but honestly this is one of the risks you take being an aggressive player. Oh well... next time you'll have AA and take him.

Sometimes you hit that third Q on the turn or river and he will have wished he raised you early on to get you to fold (which is why giving free cards / slowplaying is bad... unless you truly have a monster).

KO

Delzek15 · #24 08-01-2005, 01:22 PM

Correct... Value bet the river. No one has shown any aggression or sign of a K nor has any draw been completed except an unusual runner runner straight. Bet here.

silkyslim · #25 08-01-2005, 01:40 PM

Do you have SSH? There is a hand quiz very much like this. It says to value bet. So thats what I'd do (because I agree with Mioller's reasoning) pg. 304, #6 River play.

TomBrooks · #26 08-01-2005, 04:37 PM

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SSH hand quiz pg. 304, #6 River play.

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Hi Slim:

Three significant differences between this hand and the SSH example.

1. Hero here has two opponents on the river, in the SSH example there is only one.

2. Hero here is OOP. In SSH he has position.

3. Hero here had two cold callers. In SSH the two callers came from the blinds where people can be more loose with their calls.

Hero in this hand is in a far more tenuous position than in the example from SSH.

hizo1 · #27 08-01-2005, 04:49 PM

Thanks, I don't remember that hand at all! I think I have to read SSHE again once I get it back from the guy I lent it to.

Being the weak tight river player that I am (grrrr) I checked and it got checked through. I think the donks showed J9 (sooted) and 88 and MHIG.