Ivey/Moneymaker WSOP 2003

[tpir90036]

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Then why does he say in the book that Ivey wouldn't shake his hand?

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Probably because I was wrong. Shouldn't be that hard to figure out once he said it himself. I just thought I remembered a hand shake later on that I thought I missed the first time around... must have been rememembering something else.

[hotdog da 2rd]

that was very bad behavior of phil ivey. if a guy rivers me on a 4 outter and knocks me out on the bubble of the biggest final table of the year, i'll be more than happy to run him down and shake his hand. it's the most you can do before you track down his hotel number and choke the [censored] outta him. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

[Dynasty]

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...if a guy rivers me on a 4 outter and knocks me out on the bubble of the biggest final table of the year...

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It was a seven-outer. Your mistake is typical of people who just don't understand how common that outdraw was.

I think it's the full-house over full-house thing which causes people to lose perspective.

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Hand 1: 15.9091 % [ 00.16 00.00 ] { AdQh }
Hand 2: 84.0909 % [ 00.84 00.00 ] { 9h9c }

How is that not a bad beat?

[hotdog da 2rd]

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...if a guy rivers me on a 4 outter and knocks me out on the bubble of the biggest final table of the year...

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It was a seven-outer. Your mistake is typical of people who just don't understand how common that outdraw was.

I think it's the full-house over full-house thing which causes people to lose perspective.

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good grief man, it was 2 yrs ago. i don't even watch the reruns anymore. CUT ME SOME SLACKS WILL YA!! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[Dynasty]

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Hand 1: 15.9091 % [ 00.16 00.00 ] { AdQh }
Hand 2: 84.0909 % [ 00.84 00.00 ] { 9h9c }

How is that not a bad beat?

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Hitting a 7-outer is no big deal. You're own stats show that it should be expected about 1 out of every 7 hands.

[hotdog da 2rd]

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...if a guy rivers me on a 4 outter and knocks me out on the bubble of the biggest final table of the year...

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It was a seven-outer. Your mistake is typical of people who just don't understand how common that outdraw was.

I think it's the full-house over full-house thing which causes people to lose perspective.

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good grief man, it was 2 yrs ago. i don't even watch the reruns anymore. CUT ME SOME SLACKS WILL YA!! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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7 outs w/ one card to come is a terrible beat! [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

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Hitting a 7-outer is no big deal.

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This is crazy talk. It's a brutal beat anywhere, but even moreso on the bubble of the 2003 Main Event. Even moreso when you have an insanely large chance of winning the whole thing.

[hotdog da 2rd]

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Hitting a 7-outer is no big deal. You're own stats show that it should be expected about 1 out of every 7 hands.

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add a potential 2.5 million win and the throne of poker. most people would throw-up and have nightmares for months. i don't see phil ivey doing nethier. sick bastard.

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[curtains]

When does it become an acceptable beat? when you are a 75% favorite? 67% favorite? I doubt Phil Ivey is telling anyone how incredible of a bad beat he suffered in the WSOP as a 6-1 favorite.

I do think it's reasonable to refuse to shake someone's hand if they celebrate loudly after knocking you out of a tournament. I wouldn't do this anyway, unless it was really drastic like this crazy kid who got 8th from the WSOP, but I don't blame people for not shaking someone's hand after they start screaming in your face right after you suffer a bad beat.

I understand it's exciting to win a big hand, but if you refuse to take into consideration how the other person who just lost the hand feels (which is what you are doing when you celebrate right in front of them), then I don't see why they are obligated to politely shake your hand.