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Old 07-18-2005, 06:21 AM
viennagreen viennagreen is offline
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Default Re: Help w/Late gameplay in 22\'s

i don't know if we are operating with the same working definition of "bad beat"

i use "bad beat" to describe when i get my money in with the best hand, and lose....

there are many times when i think that i probably have the best hand, but i fold anyway... but i never think of it as trying to "avoid a bad beat"--- it's usually due to factors like relative chip stack sizes and such...

when your chip stack and chip position is such that you must steal blinds in order to survive/make-the-money, any strategy which includes "avoiding bad beats" is ridiculous, in my opinion it is just another way of saying "playing scared"...

so--- you might be right--- i might not understand what you mean by "avoiding bad beats"... please explain this concept.
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Old 07-18-2005, 12:27 PM
BadMongo BadMongo is offline
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Default Re: Help w/Late gameplay in 22\'s

Hahaha! I really hope you are just trolling...

In case you aren't, let me say this. There are times when ICM does not provide a satisfactory model to base your decisions on 100%.

THIS IS NOT ONE OF THOSE TIMES.

This is simply a math question. There is only ONE correct play in the situation descibed by the OP if one wishes to maximize $EV. That play is to push. It doesn't matter what your 'instincs' tell you or if you want to 'avoid bad beats'. Hell it doesn't even matter what range of calling hands the SB an BB have here, its still +EV. Once you crunch the numbers, you know what play to make, and you make that play 100% of the time in this specific scenario. There is no room to 'play poker' here, and you don't like this fact then don't play party poker STTs.
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