A dumbass river fold?

[spydog]

I raise preflop, I raise the flop, I 3-bet the turn, and I call the river. Other than that I play it exactly the same.

[billyjex]

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I raise preflop, I raise the flop, I 3-bet the turn, and I call the river. Other than that I play it exactly the same.

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lol. i feel the same way.

I don't think i've ever called the flop intending to 3-bet a raise w/ 2 players left to act. especially in a party 2/4 game.

[W. Deranged]

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I raise preflop, I raise the flop, I 3-bet the turn, and I call the river. Other than that I play it exactly the same.

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May seem boring, but I don't really see myself playing this hand any other way, except I might be limping 77 depending on the table. Post-flop I'm raise flop, three-bet turn, call river all the way.

[jskills]

I think you have to raise the flop here no matter what.

I can't see folding for one bet on the river. Maybe he's got KQ, although I see your concern about the flush of course.

[Aces McGee]

Jason

I don't think you've shown enough strength to fold to this bet.

-McGee

[sfer]

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Jason

I don't think you've shown enough strength to fold to this bet.

-McGee

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There's a great Paluka line from last week where he says something like "Slowplaying and making a tough fold is rarely right."

[jason_t]

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Raise preflop.

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I don't agree with this on a loose 2/4 table. The table VPIP was ~42%.

[Entity]

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Raise preflop.

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I don't agree with this on a loose 2/4 table. The table VPIP was ~42%.

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2 of the players have folded and a minimum of 3 of the remaining 8 are tight (Button/You/BB). I doubt the entire rest of the table is super loose. 88 is an easy raise for me here and I really think you'd be getting a lot more out of raising this than limping here.

Rob

[W. Deranged]

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Raise preflop.

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I don't agree with this on a loose 2/4 table. The table VPIP was ~42%.

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2 of the players have folded and a minimum of 3 of the remaining 8 are tight (Button/You/BB). I doubt the entire rest of the table is super loose. 88 is an easy raise for me here and I really think you'd be getting a lot more out of raising this than limping here.

Rob

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I like a raise here as well. Entity makes a really interesting point about the pairs that made me realize something odd: 88 seems to hold an exalted position among the pairs for me as somehow the cutoff between the "raising" pairs and the "limping" pairs. I'd be raising 88 here like 95% of the time, yet usually limping 77, which is probably a MUCH too rigid way of looking at pre-flop play.

With the tight players behind you I think that a raise has a pretty decent chance of getting the hand down to 3 handed or so, and you have set potential to fall back on if it turns out you'll need to improve. There are quite a few flops that 77 is going to like.

[lxdx]

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a set is when a pair is wired in your hole

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