#21
|
|||
|
|||
Re: Where do you give up? Blind wars at 20/40.
Folding here as SOP seems highly exploitable and -EV. I think you have to call down a good % of the time.
|
#22
|
|||
|
|||
Re: Where do you give up? Blind wars at 20/40.
[ QUOTE ]
id cap preflop but i would just peel this flop. 7:1 plus implied odds is enough to peel 6 outs that probably arent tainted with metagame considerations.. he may also check the turn giving you another card to look at. [/ QUOTE ] |
#23
|
|||
|
|||
Re: Where do you give up? Blind wars at 20/40.
[ QUOTE ]
Folding here as SOP seems highly exploitable and -EV. [/ QUOTE ] It's only highly exploitable and -EV if you have KQ every time there's a J42 flop OOP against this guy. Next time you won't have KQ and he'll get punished. C'mon guys...this metagame thing is soooooo over-rated. |
#24
|
|||
|
|||
Re: Where do you give up? Blind wars at 20/40.
[ QUOTE ]
It's only highly exploitable and -EV if you have KQ every time there's a J42 flop OOP against this guy. [/ QUOTE ] It's a showdownable hand and pretty close to near even money. I think you should be willing to showdown hands like these vs the right crew. My remarks were not directed to Meta, and I agree that sometimes we focus too much on Meta and we get tired of hearing about it. However, I think Meta is mos def a consideration when discussing BLIND WARS. |
#25
|
|||
|
|||
Re: Where do you give up? Blind wars at 20/40.
yeah I dont really like folding a decent showdownable hand in these situations. Your effective odds basically put a call down at breakeven if u win 28-29 percent. With such a wide range, with odds of improvement...I think there is merit calling down more than some deem nessasary.
This also depends on opponent, obviously. If they are willing to fire all 3 bullets, or contiunation bet only to the turn...if they are willing to fold, what have I seen them do...etc. These situations are delicate. On a side note. This situation came up pretty often today and a majority of the time my K or A-high was enough to win it (even Q-high)...but I almost always had the best hand, unfortunattly they caught their rivered six outers frequently. |
#26
|
|||
|
|||
Re: Where do you give up? Blind wars at 20/40.
The hand is showdownable against LAGgier types, I'll agree. But marginally showdownable. Calling down every single time, even against this guy, will cost money and be -EV. IMO, shania can't turn the (-) into a (+) here.
We may be close to even money in theory, but don't forget, this guy gets to choose when to put the bets in while we're OOP. Although we may be a coin toss from here on out, ANY discretion that this guy uses behind us will pull us further away from 50/50. The correct application of metagame & positive EV here is to showdown UI some of the time. Doing it every time is a guaranteed loss. |
|
|