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Old 06-21-2005, 03:58 AM
Stuck Stuck is offline
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Default Re: lurker request; DERB update!

Just a quick observation. There's a lot of overlap in the data. We're all essentially looking at the same data set. 10 of us seeing a 50k hands isn't the same as 1 person seeing 500k hands. I don't believe anyone can play 30/60 with a 30% VPIP - he's probably simply a statistical outlier.
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Old 06-21-2005, 01:35 PM
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Default Re: lurker request; DERB update!

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title says it all; that was a fun thread to watch people share opinions on. any subsequent observations on the subject?

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I love how everyone is avoiding the actual question. So let me make it a bit more clear for everyone.

What are your DERBs results for the last 30 days. What are his BB/100 and total $won?

- Andrew

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Old 06-21-2005, 02:30 PM
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Default Re: lurker request; DERB update!

at the time of the initial post there were at the conservative end 90k observed hands (individually) and probably 150k ahnds that have overlaps.

he was 30/18/2.1 ( i think) and was winning at a rate of 3bb/100

-Barron
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Old 06-21-2005, 02:32 PM
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Default Re: lurker request; DERB update!

The question isn't what are his overall stats. The question is what are his results since May 16th.

- Andrew

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Old 06-21-2005, 04:11 PM
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The question isn't what are his overall stats. The question is what are his results since May 16th.

- Andrew

ww.pokerstove.com

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according to the HH datamining service @ pokerhandhistories his resuts during may are:

hands: 4085
VPIP: 29.99
PFR: 18.14
WSD: 45.78%
W$SD: 48.64% (keys are here to his play imo since he got a massive increase in WSD without dropping W$SD by a proportional amount...my #s are like 32% and 58% respectively)

W$WSF: 40.65% (this is also huge, mine is 42% and he plays almost 2x as many hands)

and he never folds his blinds...he folds bb to steal 28.74% of the time over this sample.

results: 2.03bb/100 ... (st. dev = 24.920bb/100....mine is 15bb/100)

-Barron
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Old 06-21-2005, 09:31 PM
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hands: 4085
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results: 2.03bb/100 ... (st. dev = 24.920bb/100....mine is 15bb/100)


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Looking bad for the "just a lucky player" theory.
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Old 06-21-2005, 10:44 PM
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Default Re: lurker request; DERB update!

The W$SD figure here is what is so amazing. How is it possible to show down such a high percentage of winners when he is starting with average hands? That is the piece I cant understand and seems to only be able to be explained by luck. But how can luck continue for the same guy?

I can buy the part about running people over leading to a good win rate. But showing down winners? how can that be?
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Old 06-22-2005, 05:56 AM
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Default Re: lurker request; DERB update!

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The question isn't what are his overall stats. The question is what are his results since May 16th.

- Andrew

ww.pokerstove.com

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according to the HH datamining service @ pokerhandhistories his resuts during may are:

hands: 4085
VPIP: 29.99
PFR: 18.14
WSD: 45.78%
W$SD: 48.64% (keys are here to his play imo since he got a massive increase in WSD without dropping W$SD by a proportional amount...my #s are like 32% and 58% respectively)

W$WSF: 40.65% (this is also huge, mine is 42% and he plays almost 2x as many hands)

and he never folds his blinds...he folds bb to steal 28.74% of the time over this sample.

results: 2.03bb/100 ... (st. dev = 24.920bb/100....mine is 15bb/100)

-Barron

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same dataset filtered for after may 16th

788 hands -2.94BB/100
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Old 06-21-2005, 06:56 PM
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Default Re: lurker request; DERB update!

Here is my stats on the derb in question:

Lojzka~{{H 93,205 - V 30 - R 17 - NF 21 - ag 2.0 ASB 37 - FSB 70 - FBB 30 - FBB-HU 24 WSD 41 - W$SD 50 - WF-T 3 - WF-R 3 CR 3 - W $144,657 - WR 3 - LS 04/29/2005}}>

these stats are taken from a notefile that was given to me by my rakeback site. I dont know if they are filtered for shorthanded or not
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Old 06-22-2005, 12:50 PM
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Default Re: lurker request; DERB update!

what limits and what site is derb playing these days.
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