Trainwreck

[StellarWind]

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He has position on us when we are in the SB. We have position in the BB and the button - our relative position to him is the best it could be.

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Eh? First off it's 4-handed. But this makes no sense anyway. He acts after us preflop unless we have the BB. He acts after us postflop unless we have the button.

But I've generally believed game selection is about the bad players. The monetary difference between an outstanding player and a good player is much smaller than the difference between a good player and a fish.

[MicroBob]

Yes.

I suspect you go into it hoping to hold your own against the WCP who usually has position on you...and the two of you are pretty much dividing up the fish's money (and you have better position on the fish then the WCP does).

I understand that....I just would hate playing against a super-star who is usually going to have position on me.

[Surfbullet]

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He has position on us when we are in the SB. We have position in the BB and the button - our relative position to him is the best it could be.

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Eh? First off it's 4-handed. But this makes no sense anyway. He acts after us preflop unless we have the BB. He acts after us postflop unless we have the button.

But I've generally believed game selection is about the bad players. The monetary difference between an outstanding player and a good player is much smaller than the difference between a good player and a fish.

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Not only did I misread the game info(I thought it was 3handed) I thought boutros was the button. My last post is essentially gibberish b/c of my lack of reading comprehension.

Surf

[PokerBob]

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where one fo the best short-handed players in the universe is usually going to have position on you.

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um, are we talking about Schneids here?

[flawless_victory]

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where one fo the best short-handed players in the universe is usually going to have position on you.

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um, are we talking about Schneids here?

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read the post?

[PokerBob]

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where one fo the best short-handed players in the universe is usually going to have position on you.

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um, are we talking about Schneids here?

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read the post?

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yes. just confused as to who this WCP is, cuz it clearly can't be Schneids.

[StellarWind]

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Also, one of the reasons to 3-bet -- getting Boutros out PF -- isn't quite as important because he is tight and most of the hands that he'll fold for three bets he'll fold for two bets anyway.

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Also FWIW I really think he expects I have a hand like 76.

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This seems to be an odd combination of ideas.

[StellarWind]

I'm a simple soul. I would reraise my nice hand and keep betting it until I got raised again. Then I would call down.

In view of the thread title I suppose my locomotive will reach the end of the track going full speed [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img].

[Surfbullet]

I'm with the cap/lead guys.

A question - will he call down with a A6/76/midPP-type hand barring a club falling? If so I like 4betting better because he has to keep you honest, though you do have to contend with a possble turn FSD raise if he's also got any Q. If you think he'll let go of these hands on the turn I think you should start semibluff capping your FDs OOP [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Surf

[krishanleong]

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I'm with the cap/lead guys.


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Why are we worried about a free card? Hero has folded to turn bets in the past and there is no reason to think Boutros won't try and take advantage of this by betting his draws on the turn in this hand as well.

Krishan