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Auto-fold | 32 | 72.73% | |
3-bet only maniacs or people on tilt | 10 | 22.73% | |
3-bet LAGs or oportunistic blind stealers | 2 | 4.55% | |
Automatic 3-bet | 0 | 0% | |
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Re: Another Interesting Home Game situation
If you are the one usually making decisions, you should make the call here. And you should probably consider it a call, but make it perfectly clear that from now on any exposed hands are dead.
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Re: Another Interesting Home Game situation
What are the rules on this? In Supersystem, DB talks about if he has A-A and a player is betting into him, he will show the A-A and try to get a read. I assume DB was talking about a cash game, not a tournament, and was heads up.
I have used the trick myself, like when I had an Ax with x being a low kicker. Why you would show with the nuts is beyond me, maybe he was flustered/excited. It was a big hand. I would really like to know the rules, officially. Have they changed since Supersystem? If so, why? Collusion? |
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Re: Another Interesting Home Game situation
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What are the rules on this? In Supersystem, DB talks about if he has A-A and a player is betting into him, he will show the A-A and try to get a read. I assume DB was talking about a cash game, not a tournament, and was heads up. I have used the trick myself, like when I had an Ax with x being a low kicker. Why you would show with the nuts is beyond me, maybe he was flustered/excited. It was a big hand. I would really like to know the rules, officially. Have they changed since Supersystem? If so, why? Collusion? [/ QUOTE ] Geez, people, how hard is it to google the rules or even read the thread and see the answers of people who have read the rules. Tournament Directors Association: Rule 35: A player who exposes his cards during the play may incur a penalty but will not have his hand killed. for those who are google impaired I don't see a rule that specific in Robert's rules of poker, but if you look under the section heading: "Dead Hands," exposing your cards is not listed as a reason to kill a hand. Also under "Showdown," Rule 6 "show one show all" its strongly implied (indeed I don't see any way to read the rule otherwise) that an exposed hand is not a dead hand. Linky, cause I know google is so hard to use --Zetack |
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Tournament Directors Association: Rule 35: A player who exposes his cards during the play may incur a penalty but will not have his hand killed. for those who are google impaired I don't see a rule that specific in Robert's rules of poker, but if you look under the section heading: "Dead Hands," exposing your cards is not listed as a reason to kill a hand. Also under "Showdown," Rule 6 "show one show all" its strongly implied (indeed I don't see any way to read the rule otherwise) that an exposed hand is not a dead hand. Linky, cause I know google is so hard to use --Zetack [/ QUOTE ] One note- this generally is limited to heads-up play, where exposing the hand cannot affect future betting sequences, I believe? |
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[ QUOTE ] Tournament Directors Association: Rule 35: A player who exposes his cards during the play may incur a penalty but will not have his hand killed. for those who are google impaired I don't see a rule that specific in Robert's rules of poker, but if you look under the section heading: "Dead Hands," exposing your cards is not listed as a reason to kill a hand. Also under "Showdown," Rule 6 "show one show all" its strongly implied (indeed I don't see any way to read the rule otherwise) that an exposed hand is not a dead hand. Linky, cause I know google is so hard to use --Zetack [/ QUOTE ] One note- this generally is limited to heads-up play, where exposing the hand cannot affect future betting sequences, I believe? [/ QUOTE ] Um...didja see the linkies? I even put in the relevant sections to read. The answer is no, its not limited to heads up. Showing your hand does not kill it even multi-way, even if one player has acted and there are players behind the flasher. I think that may be where the penalties MAY be accessed comes in, when it affects the action, penalties are very appropriate. But not killing the hand. --Zetack |
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Re: Another Interesting Home Game situation
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[ QUOTE ] What are the rules on this? In Supersystem, DB talks about if he has A-A and a player is betting into him, he will show the A-A and try to get a read. I assume DB was talking about a cash game, not a tournament, and was heads up. I have used the trick myself, like when I had an Ax with x being a low kicker. Why you would show with the nuts is beyond me, maybe he was flustered/excited. It was a big hand. I would really like to know the rules, officially. Have they changed since Supersystem? If so, why? Collusion? [/ QUOTE ] Geez, people, how hard is it to google the rules or even read the thread and see the answers of people who have read the rules. Tournament Directors Association: Rule 35: A player who exposes his cards during the play may incur a penalty but will not have his hand killed. for those who are google impaired I don't see a rule that specific in Robert's rules of poker, but if you look under the section heading: "Dead Hands," exposing your cards is not listed as a reason to kill a hand. Also under "Showdown," Rule 6 "show one show all" its strongly implied (indeed I don't see any way to read the rule otherwise) that an exposed hand is not a dead hand. Linky, cause I know google is so hard to use --Zetack [/ QUOTE ] Thanks Zetack, I did read through the threads and I saw different answers. Is the Tournament Director's official, or just one set of rules out of several? |
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(that being said I truly believe that the vast majority of people who pull this stunt are in capable of getting a read on their opponent anyway - but they think it makes them look cool). [/ QUOTE ] I had a buddy do this in our home game at the final table of 18 people. Flop was K 10 3 - I was holding KK, I reraised him all-in. He expsosed his A10 while staring at me, I began to laugh at loud (that he would consider a call) he thought I was full of BS and called and busted out on the hand. A classic moment... AcesKracked |
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Re: Another Interesting Home Game situation
players in my regualr home game do this once in a while and I and a few others I play with dislike it. exposing your hole cards to gage a reaction is angle shooting, in a casino the hand would be dead. I'm not sure this is what your opponent was up to though, given he had the nuts.
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Re: Another Interesting Home Game situation
didnt Chan flip his cards over before he said call durring the last hand of the 88 wsop?
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didnt Chan flip his cards over before he said call durring the last hand of the 88 wsop? [/ QUOTE ] IIRC, he began to push his stack into the middle before he flipped his cards. |
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