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Old 04-27-2005, 11:18 AM
Greg J Greg J is offline
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Default Re: Should I quit the game?

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1/2$ sucks, give 2/4$ a shot if you have the bankroll.

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Very few people will be able to develop as a poker player as cheaply by skipping 1/2. It's a beatable game, and you're cheating yourself if you skip it.

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Not to mention the general advise, "you're losing? Move up!" is just horrible.
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Old 04-27-2005, 11:21 AM
Greg J Greg J is offline
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Default Re: Should I quit the game?

I can tell you right now you are probably one of the weak tight guys I have been bullying around at Party 1/2. Post some hands on the micro forum and let's fix some holes in yr game.
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Old 04-27-2005, 11:42 AM
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Default Re: Should I quit the game?

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1/2$ sucks, give 2/4$ a shot if you have the bankroll.

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He's a losing player over 40k hands and you're telling him to move up? Party $1/2 isn't the rockish nightmare that many claim it to be.
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Old 04-27-2005, 11:45 AM
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Default Get Back to Basics

I strongly disagree with those who have suggested that you play more hands and play more aggressively.

Your graphic of your final hands suggests to me that you need to concentrate on improving your post-flop play with the premium starting hands you currently favor. I have never seen so many big bets per hand dumped on high card and one pair final hands.

This next suggestion will likley prompt howls of protest and outrage, but I'll make it anyway. Read and STUDY the following two books: Winning Low Limit Hold'em by Lee Jones and Internet Texas Hold'em by Matthew Hilger. Study, study and study their post-flop sections. To be sure, the advice is basic, but I think that's what you need right now.

Avoid Miller's SSHE for now. Your problems are fundamental. The advanced concepts presented in SSHE will only compound your problems.
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Old 04-27-2005, 11:57 AM
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Default Re: Should I quit the game?

Short answer yes. If your negative after 41,000 hands at $1/$2 you are either a losing or breakeven player. Perhaps you could become a winning player, but it will take a long time.

Don't end up like my friend at lose everything. I don't know how he did it. I only play cause I'm making money. He never made a dime. Oh well whatever.
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Old 04-27-2005, 11:58 AM
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Default Re: Get Back to Basics

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He's a losing player over 40k hands and you're telling him to move up? Party $1/2 isn't the rockish nightmare that many claim it to be.


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Hmm.. I was too quick with my answer. Didn't see that this was over 40k hands
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Old 04-27-2005, 12:05 PM
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Default Re: Should I quit the game?

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It is quite obvious from your stats that you just don't play enough hands preflop, and the ones you do play you don't play aggressively enough.

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I told you those things were useful[img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

I agree. Seems like he is a weak-tight player.
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Old 04-27-2005, 12:06 PM
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Default Re: Should I quit the game?

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1/2$ sucks, give 2/4$ a shot if you have the bankroll.

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terrible advice

move DOWN to .5/1 learn the aggressive style there at a much lower risk

and the rockiness of 1/2 is rediculously overblown
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Old 04-27-2005, 12:06 PM
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Default Re: Should I quit the game?

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I’m quite sure I play a solid ABC game

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VP$IP 13.62
VP$ISB 23.45
Folded SB To Steal 94.25
Folded BB To Steal 83.62
Att. To Stel Blinds 15.42
W$WSF 29.26
BB/100 hands -0.30
Went To SD 27.75
Won$ At SD 60.68
PFR 5.97

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Sorry to break it to you, but you don't. Let's take another look at these.

VP$IP 13.62 <font color="blue"> Too low. You're mucking hands with value. </font>
VP$ISB 23.45 <font color="blue"> Same. </font>
Folded SB To Steal 94.25
Folded BB To Steal 83.62 <font color="blue"> Same. </font>
Att. To Stel Blinds 15.42 <font color="blue"> Shoot for 25-30% </font>
W$WSF 29.26
BB/100 hands -0.30
Went To SD 27.75 <font color="blue"> Too low. You're folding winners. </font>
Won$ At SD 60.68 <font color="blue"> Too high. You're folding winners. </font>
PFR 5.97 <font color="blue"> Way too low. Shoot for 9% </font>

Go back to .5/1 for a while, and when you're ready, move to 1/2 6-max instead of full.
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Old 04-27-2005, 12:08 PM
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Now this is my pet peeve. Those one pair and high card won/lost stats are totally meaningless and should be ignored. Just replay some of the hands in that category and you will see why.
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