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10-03-2005, 05:16 PM
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Re: Dealing opportunities in Vegas
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The co-author is Dan Paymar and he has unfortunately retired. He was the BEST. [/ QUOTE ] I am not sure he was the best, he was second if not the best. He is one of two people that have taught dealing that do a good job. 
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#2
10-01-2005, 12:05 AM
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Re: Dealing opportunities in Vegas
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[ QUOTE ] They have a dealer school in vegas that if you attend/graduate you will have a big leg up on getting a job. It does not take long to do. [/ QUOTE ] Big leg up? Not hardly. I think I made it clear. There are Maybe 5 places in LV to deal.(I didnt include Bellagio since they are way overstaffed right now) The rest are junk. At least, in comparison. Wanna learn bad habits? Go to all the other casinos. Wanna get a bad dealer attitude? Go to the other places in town. Wanna learn incorrect dealing/poker principles? Go to the other poker rooms. The schools, to a man, take your money and give you simple simple basics which you already know if you play live. And they give you a place to prctice shuffling and pitching. Thats it. I have never seen a "dealer" come out of a school. They are nothing more than "break-ins". [/ QUOTE ] This is pretty interesting. I was recently looking into moving to Atlantic City and getting a job as a poker dealer seemed like an interesting concept. Most of the Casinos I talked to said that a certificate from a dealers school was required. I guess it's different in AC.
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#3
10-01-2005, 07:07 AM
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Re: Dealing opportunities in Vegas
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] They have a dealer school in vegas that if you attend/graduate you will have a big leg up on getting a job. It does not take long to do. [/ QUOTE ] Big leg up? Not hardly. I think I made it clear. There are Maybe 5 places in LV to deal.(I didnt include Bellagio since they are way overstaffed right now) The rest are junk. At least, in comparison. Wanna learn bad habits? Go to all the other casinos. Wanna get a bad dealer attitude? Go to the other places in town. Wanna learn incorrect dealing/poker principles? Go to the other poker rooms. The schools, to a man, take your money and give you simple simple basics which you already know if you play live. And they give you a place to prctice shuffling and pitching. Thats it. I have never seen a "dealer" come out of a school. They are nothing more than "break-ins". [/ QUOTE ] This is pretty interesting. I was recently looking into moving to Atlantic City and getting a job as a poker dealer seemed like an interesting concept. Most of the Casinos I talked to said that a certificate from a dealers school was required. I guess it's different in AC. [/ QUOTE ] I have no idea what they do in AC. But I can tell you this from experience. Less than 5% of those that come out of schools that I have seen, can deal. And I mean just getting out 12-14 hands a down even. They cant read boards for shlt. And fergit Omaha/8..they have no clue at all. They can barely deal a 1-5 stud game. They take ten seconds to push a pot to the winner for crying out load!. It's like the chips intimidate them. Hell I have seen a winner show his hand, everyone mucks, the dealer now wants to position the cards "just so" above the board, push up the other combinign cards from the flop to make a 5 card hand, then tries to figure out how to push the chips ever so carefully without disturbing the board. WTF? everyone freaking mucked already!!! PUSH the G'dam pot and deal the next hand!!! It drives regulars crazy and actually causes customers to say bye bye. One of the worst things in my opinion for a dealer is to be intimidated in any way. This intimidation causes over cautiousness that in fact creates errors! And NEVER let the players see your intimidated. They'll run all over you. Be able to jump in the box and deal 10-25 blinds pot limit omaha with confidence. Especially during a major event like the wsop. When the players see a real dealer come in to this game, they are very much aware of it and reward you tremendously compared to the rest. Dealer schools dont teach these things from what I have seen. But dealers do.
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#4
09-30-2005, 05:41 PM
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Re: Dealing opportunities in Vegas
My best friend just moved to LV to deal and play and he was talking about getting a job at the Golden Nugget. So these card rooms arent worth going to? I mean, we have solid dealing skills, so I dont think bad habits would be a problem, but would the pay be nominal compared to the top 5? And are contacts important in landing a good dealing job? That's what I'm most worried about, I really have no options as far as making contact with managers right now as I live on the East Coast. Any suggestions?
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#5
09-30-2005, 07:32 PM
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Re: Dealing opportunities in Vegas
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I mean, we have solid dealing skills, so I dont think bad habits would be a problem [/ QUOTE ] If this is really true you shoudln't have a problem. I know a lot of places have had to lower their standards with the poker boom. I know when I used to audition delaers in Vegas (I left Vegas in 2001) less than half of the dealers with expeience in AC (that auditioned) were up to speed. We would hite breakin dealers, but there were certain bad habits that dealers pick up that if we saw them in the audition we woudlnt' hire the dealer (carrying the card across the box before dealing it to the 1 seat was the most common error I saw that disqualified the dealer from gettting hired, but there are others).
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10-05-2005, 09:46 PM
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Re: Dealing opportunities in Vegas
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[ QUOTE ] I mean, we have solid dealing skills, so I dont think bad habits would be a problem [/ QUOTE ] If this is really true you shoudln't have a problem. I know a lot of places have had to lower their standards with the poker boom. I know when I used to audition delaers in Vegas (I left Vegas in 2001) less than half of the dealers with expeience in AC (that auditioned) were up to speed. We would hite breakin dealers, but there were certain bad habits that dealers pick up that if we saw them in the audition we woudlnt' hire the dealer (carrying the card across the box before dealing it to the 1 seat was the most common error I saw that disqualified the dealer from gettting hired, but there are others). [/ QUOTE ] I remember hearing that if you roll your deck they stop the audition. Is that still true?
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#7
10-05-2005, 09:59 PM
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Re: Dealing opportunities in Vegas
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I mean, we have solid dealing skills, so I dont think bad habits would be a problem [/ QUOTE ] If this is really true you shoudln't have a problem. I know a lot of places have had to lower their standards with the poker boom. I know when I used to audition delaers in Vegas (I left Vegas in 2001) less than half of the dealers with expeience in AC (that auditioned) were up to speed. We would hite breakin dealers, but there were certain bad habits that dealers pick up that if we saw them in the audition we woudlnt' hire the dealer (carrying the card across the box before dealing it to the 1 seat was the most common error I saw that disqualified the dealer from gettting hired, but there are others). [/ QUOTE ] I remember hearing that if you roll your deck they stop the audition. Is that still true? [/ QUOTE ] I don't know because they have to scrape the bottom of the barrell. If I was auditioning a dealer I would have the regular deler go ahead and tap out the auditioner if he rolled the deck. I would never hire someone that rolled the deck in an audition.
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#10
10-08-2005, 05:01 AM
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Re: Dealing opportunities in Vegas
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what is carrying the card across the box mean? why is this only important at first base? [/ QUOTE ] There are no bases in poker. Often a poor dealer will deal around the table and after he delas to the last seat he has to turn to deal to seat one and he will take the top card off the deck and carry it in teh air across the box in front of him and then give it to the one seat.
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