|
|
|
|
#1
02-24-2005, 04:51 PM
|
|||
|
|||
Re: what about...
[ QUOTE ]
i omitted jj because i assumed you'd get reraised preflop by jj, thus leaving it out of consideration here where there was a mere call of the raise. is this a decent assumption? [/ QUOTE ] The opponent is "a solid, not extremely aggressive, player" so is it a decent assumption? I don't know. It's player dependent, I think. I do think it is odd that people exclude JJ because it would have been raised PF, but include TT. Hard to imagine we can firmly draw the reraising line at that exact spot. Just food for thought... Che BTW I know that some said TT would "probably" be raised PF - let's don't get too nitpicky with this. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] 
|
|
#2
02-23-2005, 06:43 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Re: $109 tourney, T5s hand
I haven't read the other replies yet, but here is my opinion. Your flop play is fine. The BB could easily have put you on a steal and called with the plan of making a play on the flop. Also he could have called your preflop raise with something like QJ-AJ and played the flop that way.
Your main mistake in this hand is the preflop raise. The first problem I have with it is the shortstacks in the button and SB. If either comes over the top you probably have to call getting close to 2-1 on the call. Secondly, at this point in the tourney you want to be stealing from the tight mid-stacked players not from the only player at the table who can bust you.
|
|
#3
02-24-2005, 11:04 AM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Re: $109 tourney, T5s hand
I don't have any problem with the play on the flop. With 2 pair against a set on a JT5, rainbow flop, you are going to go broke.
The preflop raise is stupid and selfdestructive. As the 2nd chip leader at the table, why make a CO raise with junk at the chip leader's BB? If you have a hand, go ahead and raise on the chip leader's BB. However, you have alll sorts of smaller stacks to pick on. You are at a disadvantage against the chip leader as he can threaten to bust you out. Why get involved in this?
|
|
#4
02-24-2005, 01:38 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Re: $109 tourney, T5s hand
[ QUOTE ]
The preflop raise is stupid and selfdestructive. [/ QUOTE ] Yes, I'm almost convinced now it wasn't the best spot for a garbage steal, but again - big stack wasn't a particularly aggressive player or anything, and if there's a big enough chance he simply folds or even just calls as he did, I don't think I really hate playing a hand against him with position. In the past, very similar hands helped me to get big chunks out of other big stacks (which is sometimes easier than to get it out of smaller stacks), who overplayed their hands when I hit miracles with bizzare hands. This particular flop was very unlucky flop for me, of course, but you can hit such unlucky flops whether you hold AKs or T5s, hitting 2p against a better hand.
|
|
#7
02-24-2005, 03:58 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Re: $109 tourney, T5s hand
[ QUOTE ]
You got check raised by a solid, not extremely aggressive player. What hands could he possibly hold? [/ QUOTE ] He's definitely good enough to check-raise here with many hands that I beat. If you think a solid player only c/r here with sets/top 2p, I think you maybe should reconsider your idea of "solid"...
|
|
#8
02-24-2005, 04:22 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Re: $109 tourney, T5s hand
When you rr all in you are only going to get called by hands that beat you. He's not going to 2x with you just a jack. Call the checkraise and see how he reacts to the turn. If a scare card falls and he keeps betting your beat. You shouldn't jump at the idea to get your whole stack in on the flop with bottom two pair.
I also agree that stealing here with T5s was a poor idea and you put yourself in a tough spot where it was easy for you to make a mistake. Next time just muck it,8 other players at the table you can pick on.
|
 |
|
|
Hybrid Mode
