Is Nothing Possible?

[RJT]

Stat,

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For one thing, I also run into problems when thinking about, Where did God come from? or how He could have just eternally existed. I believe you answered this elsewhere, but I can't recall your exact reasoning.

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This was not I. You must have me confused with another poster. I have enough problems dealing with where did we come from, let alone God. Lol. Actually, I simply rely that He is eternal and forget about it. I guess atheists do the same thing absent a God. I mean they don’t get beyond what we know. I don’t get beyond that my God always was and is the creator.

As far as another dimension - I think that does not negate God. It might answer a few questions (not all of them I am sure). Not sure if it would answer the nothing question or not.

RJT

[BigSoonerFan]

Nothing and infinite are both difficult to comprehend, as is finite and infinite existence. I don't think our puny brains will ever know the answer.

But it does remind me of that great Dilbert strip, which finishes something like....

Dogbert: It's because you have no personality.
Dilbert: I do so have a personality.
Dogbert: Oh no. We're not going to get into that 'Zero is a number' argument again, are we?

[chezlaw]

I believe the correct answer is that 'nothing is something' although that may just be a joke.

chez

[ZeeJustin]

I think, therefore I am.

[Lestat]

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I think, therefore I am.

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I'm somewhat familiar with this quote. I don't believe Descartes was ponticating nothing, but whether we can be sure that anything really exists. Do you think this is the same thing? Maybe you're right.

[ZeeJustin]

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I think, therefore I am.

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I'm somewhat familiar with this quote. I don't believe Descartes was ponticating nothing, but whether we can be sure that anything really exists. Do you think this is the same thing? Maybe you're right.

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Absolutely. I am conscious. If there were nothing in the universe, how could I be conscious. I exist.

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I question whether nothing is even possible and this is why I'm agnostic and recognize the possibility of a creator or even an omnipotent God. I just cannot imagine the reality of NOTHING, because even the reality of nothing is something!

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Seems like at least a couple leaps in logic here. Suppose it is impossible for us to actually conceive of *nothing* or to conceive of there being nothing. It doesn't follow that it is impossible for there to be nothing.

Suppose it is a necessary truth that there has to be something (i.e., suppose now that it is, in fact, impossible for there to be nothing). Why does this mean that there must be a god?

[RJT]

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I question whether nothing is even possible and this is why I'm agnostic and recognize the possibility of a creator or even an omnipotent God. I just cannot imagine the reality of NOTHING, because even the reality of nothing is something!

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Seems like at lesat a couple leaps in logic here.Suppose it is impossible for us to actually conceive of *nothing* or to conceive of there being nothing. It doesn't follow that it is impossible for there to be nothing.

Suppose it is a necessary truth that there has to be something (i.e., suppose now that it is, in fact, impossible for there to be nothing). Why does this mean that there must be a god?

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RJT

The leaps are yours. Lestat does not attempt to nor does draw any conclusions. Stat, merely presents the issue for discussion.

Your points are of course correct.

RJT

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RJT

The leaps are yours. Lestat does not attempt to nor does draw any conclusions. Stat, merely presents the issue for discussion.

RJT

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I beg to differ. Lestat said, "I question whether nothing is even possible and this is why I'm agnostic and recognize the possibility of a creator or even an omnipotent God."

This is an inference.

[Lestat]

I am certainly not a philosopher. I didn't say it "follows" that "nothing" is possible, or that "nothing" means a God. It just seems to me that the former is, and the latter might be.