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Old 12-13-2005, 04:20 AM
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Default Re: $33 vs. $22 on Party

i only have a slightly higher hourly rate at the 33s. but they will certainly help you more if you ever want to play the 55s.
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Old 12-13-2005, 04:36 AM
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Default Re: $33 vs. $22 on Party

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I am a player who had a very high ROI in $20+2 but am just barely better than even in my first 25 or so $30+3.

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25? That's not small, that's miniscule.

That aside, the 33s are more difficult than 22s obviously, but they're great preparation for the 55s. If you're looking for short-term earn, I'd suggest the 22s. But if you want to make money at poker, you're going to need to learn to beat bigger games. Play the 33s if you have the roll. Move down if you have to, but they aren't THAT much tougher.
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Old 12-13-2005, 04:43 AM
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I was in exactly the same spot a month or so ago before I cashed out a large chunk of my BR. I kept moving up and getting killed, it happened 3 or 4 times and really dented my confidence but I kept at it and it worked out eventually.

There's definitely a difference but I eventually went on a massive heater and ended up recouping my losses and hitting something like 30% ROI. If you're a good enough player it'll sort itself out and you'll be fine.
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Old 12-13-2005, 08:30 AM
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If you'd been on a heater and been at 50% ROI after 25 would you have posted that too?

I think the $33s are more hard than the $22s than a lot of people claim. Maybe they are used to playing even higher limits where it is even harder. I found the jump from 11 to 22 to be much easier, in that the skill difference between the 11's and 22's is not as great as that between the 22's and 33's.

It seems to depend a lot on when you play. If you hit the sweet spot there are a ton of really bad players, if you don't, there are ton of good players and it is not uncommon to find a SNG where 8 or 9 of the 10 people are quite good. At the 22's you'll get 4 or 5 bad players whatever time you play.

My ROI at the 33's is currently 10 points less than my ROI at the 22's. Which makes the 22's theoretically more profitable for me. But I've got the bankroll, and I want to get better, so I'm going to keep grinding out the $33s and eventually I might win my fair share of showdowns..

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Old 12-13-2005, 05:26 PM
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if you don't, there are ton of good players and it is not uncommon to find a SNG where 8 or 9 of the 10 people are quite good.

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Old 12-13-2005, 06:22 PM
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if you don't, there are ton of good players and it is not uncommon to find a SNG where 8 or 9 of the 10 people are quite good.

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Old 12-13-2005, 12:27 PM
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I am just curious as to what people who have recently moved up to $33 from $22 on Party think of the transition. I am a player who had a very high ROI in $20+2 but am just barely better than even in my first 25 or so $30+3. I know it is a small sample, but I definitely notice that the play is significantly better in the $30+3.

Any comments on this?

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I went break-even for my first 150 $33s. Things will get better if you don't suck.
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Old 12-13-2005, 06:38 PM
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I went break-even for my first 150 $33s. Things will get better if you don't suck.

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And if you do?? [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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Old 12-13-2005, 06:50 PM
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I went break-even for my first 150 $33s. Things will get better if you don't suck.

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And if you do?? [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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It's easy to forget, but for every player who has a 4 to 1 1st place to 10th place ratio, there is a guy who has a 4 to 1 10th to 1st. Why they don't move down to the $5 tourneys to get better, I have no idea.
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Old 12-13-2005, 06:02 PM
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Since I'm generally being a punk, I'm going to add one of my favorite quotes to this thread. It's not directed at the OP, but just to some unspecified portion of this thread.

What's that smell in this thread? Didn't you notice it? Didn't you notice the powerful and obnoxious odor of mendacity in this thread?
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