I played this hand so bad

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Hero needs to double up somehow

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Hero always needs chips. This statement doesn't add anything.

[locutus2002]

Raising AA BTF here is w/t

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Hero needs to double up somehow and is unlikely to get a better shot than this.

A great hand that plays well after the flop
Position
An opponent with a similar need to double up
A weak posture

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Doesn't need to double up so urgently, this is the FT not the early stages... No need to encourage more action here... very well may double up if you push here, villain gets decent odds (1.75:1 ish) I'd much rather push here even if villain only calls 50% of the time. 50% +5BB's 50% i'm an 80% to double up.

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Barf. I can't do this crap versus good players with this stack. A little shallower or deeper... Fine. Right?

-Jason

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My analysis was the same before reading yours. I'm not so sure that this is wrong though. I'll crunch numbers if you supply me with raising range, calling range, and expected play on various flops.

[fnord_too]

I don't think it is horrible. A lot depends on who is left to act, but you could call here with some middle pairs and big aces I think (since you hace 15BB, you don't have to push or fold). The rest of the stacks are important, too. Less chips (12BB or less) I think this is an auto push, since you will almost definitely be called by the raiser pre flop but he may find a correct fold on a scary flop if he has something like 99. Another thing about calling here: If you show down and win the hand you may be able to limp or call later with less chance of getting punished.

Later in the thread I think you mention that he will be less inclined to make a continuation bet with this stack if he misses. I would really not worry about that. What can he do with say AK? Check fold to a 1/2-2/3 pot size bet? If he has a PP he will pay you off some post flop. The only real questions here are how often he will fold to a pre flop push here, how likely is it someone left to act will try a squeeze, and how likely is it you will get more callers behind if you call (I really don't like the idea of having a 4 way pot here: too good a chance someone will outflop you and too little a chance you will get paid off since oponents marginal hands go down so much in value if the pot is multi-way).

[davidross]

I don't see anything wrong with this, and I'm more inclined to do it against a good player who might get off the hand if I push.

[45Player]

Maybe I’m supposed to know this but is 60k a short stack here ?
You should tell us the number of players and the average stack size.

Assuming 60 k is a shortish stack, then if you raise all-in and everybody folds,
that’s not a bad thing – you’ve increased your stack by 30%. That gives you a
bit more breathing space. Obviously you’d like to win more but 30% extra
isn’t a tragedy.

If I were very short-stacked then I believe calling is an option as you want
more players along and so you have to take a chance with AA.
However in this situation, I think calling is wrong as you’re not in very bad
shape (in relation to the blinds), and you’d prefer to get it heads-up. If you call
then there’s a fair chance the BB will come along (getting nearly 4/1). If the
button or CO has a big stack they might come along too. This is not good.

So, you have to raise. How much ?
If you know that your opponent knows that you may min-raise with a range of hands
then a min-raise is fine. But quite often an opponent will be very suspicious of a min-raise and think you have aces. So the fact that you do have aces means that a min-raise
is not a very good play. The only other option is to go all-in which is what I would do here.
The way I see it, if I go all-in and my opponent knows that I am a good aggressive player
(which I think the OP is), then what range of hands will he put me on ?
This is a matter of opinion but he could very well put me on TT up to AA, AK and even AQ.
If he has a hand like JJ he may well call the all-in (getting over 1.6/1 odds)
He may also decide that I would not do this with such a strong hand as AA which would encourage his call even more.
Also I think your opponent has to give extra weight to you having AK because this is
exactly what you would do with AK in this situation. So he may even call with a medium pair.

Any criticism appreciated.

Regards

45

[betgo]

I don't see the point of this. The raiser is getting good pot odds, and he is likely to call a push. All the money may not go in if you flat call either. You can lose with aces, so it is not a terrible result to pick up a significant pot without a fight.

Plus, flat calling for a big portion of your stack looks strange and may clue people as to what you have.

Flat calling a raise with aces is OK with deeper money, particularly is the raiser is likely to be aggressive later in the hand or someone is likely to come over top.